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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:15 am
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I think amps overdrive channel are good. I've just use my amps drive channel and when I play it I found that boss ds1 sounds like fake

What are you thinking about drive channels?


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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:13 am
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Well ali,

I have a Hot Rod Deluxe, and both drive channels are a little week.
However, I don't really use them anyway...

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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:31 am
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bill948 wrote:
Well ali,

I have a Hot Rod Deluxe, and both drive channels are a little week.
However, I don't really use them anyway...

Bill


Hi Bill,

I didn't use the model but I heard about that the hot rod drives channels are week. I have a marshall mg50 dfx and It sound great you should try one of them


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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:36 am
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I prefer amp drive. If i use a distortion i keep the gain levels low even zero and use the volume to boost the amps drive. The tone of the pedals distortion usually adds enough to colour the amp drive.

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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:25 pm
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I don't like the drive channel on my Peavey Delta Blues amp, so if i want drive (wich is not often) i use a Ts-9 with the volume boosted.....

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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:56 pm
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Hi Ali,
I have the mg100 half stack, very good overdrive and distortion channels and when blended with the other effects like, reverb, delay, chorus, flange and then lay my dunlop wah on top. Very sweet. Then throw a dreamy Snowy White blues/rock cd through the system and play along with something like that every morning for an hour...........Heaven. :D
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:16 pm
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never use any other overdrive other than amplifier overdrive
using a Marshall VS30R


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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:32 pm
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Without a doubt, to me, a good amp overdrive is better than any digital overdrive.

But a not-so-good amp overdrive isn't as good as a good digital overdrive.

Example: I have a few amps (Fender, Univox, Musicman, Mesa, Marshall). I use my Mesa Rectoverb for pretty much everything, for live and recording. The overdrive is amazing, from slightly dirty, to vintage bluesy, classic rock and pant-flapping high gain - it's just perfect for me. I have not found any digital overdrive that comes close to it in any way. For recording, I prefer that too. But for quick demos, or things I want to record at my place at 3am and not have to mess with miking, etc - my Line 6 pod xt is pretty decent. Not for final cuts, but it's like 80% of what I want for that.

I love Fender amps for clean tones. I don't think that can be beat. For overdrive? Sorry, but I think most Fender overdrive is just too muddy for me. I play some lines on the low strings and I hear flub-flub-flub-flub. No note definition, and its even worse if I palm mute it. I know I could throw some pedals at it, but I'm not the guy that throws a ton of toys at a tone to make it sound better. I'd rather have it pure and already there in the first place. Give me a strat and a good amp overdrive and I don't want any pedals since the tone is so beautiful.


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I love the gain i get from my Marshall! So versatile!! People like to argue that with me, but it sounds amazing - I like backing the gain all the way back, giving it some bass, backing off the treble a bit, and diming out the Mid, talk about a killer sounding tone for some blues!!

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deptents on the amp. the drive sound from my Hughes & Kettner Edition Tube sound a to sawy to me. the clean sound i like very well. here i help out with a boss overdrive, blues driver or metal zone

the drive from my Peavy Studio Pro 112 i like very well. 3 different settings, vintage, modern, high gain.

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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:24 am
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dgonz wrote:
Without a doubt, to me, a good amp overdrive is better than any digital overdrive.

But a not-so-good amp overdrive isn't as good as a good digital overdrive.



+1.

I'd rather hear a Bad Monkey straight into the board than the so-called "Drive" from a Hot Rod, or any voltage-starved 12ax7 blowing up in the pre-amp kind of "tube" drive.

If you can get your power tubes cookin', then fine, but otherwise, your better off with a good-quality stomp box.


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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:29 am
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I have a Fender Ultimate Chorus amp. It has its own drive channel.
I purchased a Danelectro overdrive pedal because I wanted to try something else, but as I sat and tweaked I notice the pedal was so close to my amps drive channel I took it back.
Do you guys think for leads it is better to play rhythm on your drive channel and use a pedal for a boost or use a pedal for rhythm and your drive to boost?

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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:44 am
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The drive on my Hot Rod Deluxe is a little hard to work with, it takes alot of time to find a decent overdrive tone, i just stick to tubescreamers and a jekyll and hyde. looking at the blackstar HT-Dual. anybody got one, any problems w/ it?


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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:39 pm
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cravelp1115 wrote:
The drive on my Hot Rod Deluxe is a little hard to work with, it takes alot of time to find a decent overdrive tone...


I had only Fender amps for years, and always thought I was doing something wrong to get the tone I had heard, and had in my head. I bought pedals, changed pickups, picks, everything.

I tested out a Marshall and a Mesa one day (many years ago) and though "WOW! Now THIS is what I've always wanted overdrive to sound like. I can actually hear the notes I'm playing very distinctly."

I leaned towards Mesa since they aren't as thin sounding as Marshalls can be. I love the low-mid tone they get. And the gain, when you need it, is amazing, yet I can still get that classic rock sound dead on. Plus, Mesas are built from Fenders (Princetons), so I feel better about keeping in the same bloodline :) And I'll still rock out on my Fender Super 210 every now and then. Great amp.


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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:50 pm
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dgonz wrote:
cravelp1115 wrote:
The drive on my Hot Rod Deluxe is a little hard to work with, it takes alot of time to find a decent overdrive tone...


I had only Fender amps for years, and always thought I was doing something wrong to get the tone I had heard, and had in my head. I bought pedals, changed pickups, picks, everything.

I tested out a Marshall and a Mesa one day (many years ago) and though "WOW! Now THIS is what I've always wanted overdrive to sound like. I can actually hear the notes I'm playing very distinctly."

I leaned towards Mesa since they aren't as thin sounding as Marshalls can be. I love the low-mid tone they get. And the gain, when you need it, is amazing, yet I can still get that classic rock sound dead on. Plus, Mesas are built from Fenders (Princetons), so I feel better about keeping in the same bloodline :) And I'll still rock out on my Fender Super 210 every now and then. Great amp.



ya... i love the sound of mesas, i would get one but unfortunetly i don't have 2,000+ to spend on an amp, i was lucky to get the money for the hot rod deluxe. but anything is better than the line 6 i had before i got the fender (a real amp) lol. i've never really tried out the overdrive channel on a marshall, but i love to mess around with the Mesas at stores and at my church.


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