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Post subject: Strat vintage-style tremolo improvements.
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:09 pm
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:o How do I get my vintage-style tremolo to beter stay in tune, without getting the Hipshot Trem-Setter? :!:


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Get a pro set up...

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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:15 pm
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This bloke Carl Verheyen knows what he's at with his method.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZnQt9yiBMg&feature=related

Again today i went for another audition, pulled my strat out the case and its at concert pitch, regardless of temperature change. Due to the back pressure of the floating trem.

Ive a better link for it but you need realplayer installed to play it.
http://www.gitaarnet.nl/video/carlverheyen/carlverheyen-setup-hoog.ram

Your never going to get one to do floyd type insanity, get a floyd for that. I can honestly vouch for that method of trem setup. Its the only reason ive never tried a tremsetter.

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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:10 pm
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I've long been a CV fan, good link Niki!!

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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:45 am
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the only thing you will need is bullet end strings


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nikininja wrote:
This bloke Carl Verheyen knows what he's at with his method.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZnQt9yiBMg&feature=related


Exactly. Note that Carl abuses the daylights out of his trem, and the guitar remains in tune. Here's why:

1. A perfect nut. 90% of all tuning problems are a sticky nut. A properly cut nut does not need lubricant.

2. A solid steel block. Carl's guitar is old, and it's got one of those old-school blocks sliced from a billet of cold rolled steel. When I installed a Callaham block on my guitar, tuning stability improved so much I can do multi-string bends without dropping an open string out of tune.

3. The right set-up. When you get the springs and the strings in balance, not only does the guitar stay in tune AND provide a true vibrato, it really starts to sounds like s Strat.

No need to block the trem, ever. If you get it set up right, it works.


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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:17 am
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Yep Slapchop i tend to spend more time setting the trem than i do the rest of the guitar. It yields its own rewards. Instance, last thursday i was asked to stand in at a gig on the friday night. I spent the next 24hours concentrating on learning songs, not worrying about guitars. Arrived at the gig pulled the guitar out of the case, gave it 10 minutes to settle checked it to the keyboard to find its perfectly at concert pitch despite temperature changes. I can only conclude that it performed that way due to the springs applying the right amount of tension.
I do have a strat with a flat set trem (because of a battery inbetween the springs) that guitar gets the same attention on setup and doesnt travel as well. Neither does my tele.

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eddytanhh wrote:
the only thing you will need is bullet end strings


Those don't help as much as you'd think. :(

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nikininja wrote:
This bloke Carl Verheyen knows what he's at with his method.


cool video thanks for sharing!!


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DD whether its the bullet end or the composition of the string I'm one of the few who like bullets. I dont even have any breakage issues with em despite getting carried away sometimes and giving the plank a spanking.

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Oh, I know what you mean. I use bullets every now and then as well, but I'm just saying they help, but as you said, nothing like a floyd.

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Post subject: Re: Strat vintage-style tremolo improvements.
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:13 am
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Tele_lover wrote:
:o How do I get my vintage-style tremolo to beter stay in tune, without getting the Hipshot Trem-Setter?

Beyond simple lubrication of nut, saddles, and string trees, the next question for you is whether or not to go with "no float" for tuning stability. This has been discussed alot. Do a search on 'float', and you will learn everything there is to be learned on this topic. Good luck.

Make sure to search in the Strat forum, though.

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