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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:38 am
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This is a interesting video of laminated guitar blanks being made. These look for time intesive with an interesting combo of woods being used.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jehdRpCpjng

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Post subject: Re: Gluing a laminated body.
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:43 pm
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cvilleira wrote:
This is a interesting video of laminated guitar blanks being made. These look for time intesive with an interesting combo of woods being used.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jehdRpCpjng
Nice find!!

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:00 pm
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Well boys, if there was ever a need for a voice-over this was it. They seemed to know what they were doing - but I sure didn't!

Some of those layers seemed to be held together with green masking tape - which got incorporated into the lamination. Huh? And some of the layers looked for all the world like cardboard...

Also, they switched from epoxy to white glue for no apparent reason. The bearded guy had just filled another cup with epoxy - and then they didn't use it.

Anyhow. Gotta say, I didn't like the grain on any of the bookmatched fronts they stuck on - which I guess helps explain why I'm not a bass player.

I'll watch some more of those vids and see if I can make more sense of it...

Interesting though.

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:43 pm
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OK actually I was thinking about the same thing ceri mentioned... why are they using different glues ? and also the tapes are left forever inside the bodies :shock: doesnt that somehow affect the performance of the body? anyway also arent those a LOT of layers for one body? does that mean these bodies being glued are for really cheap knock off guitars???? right??? anybody?
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:54 pm
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Roscoe Bass guitars they sell for between 3500.00 and 6,000.00 + add ons so I guess that speaks for there quality.

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I can shed some light on what they are doing.

First, that is not ordinary masking tape, that is veneer tape. It is a special tape that is unbelievably thin, and is meant to become part of a lamination.

Second, the reason for the glue switch is because of the type of wood being laminated. Cold white glues work very well on non-oily woods such as mahagony, walnut, poplar, aldar, and maple. The first batches of wood had a lot of exotics in the layers, like cocobolo. These woods are very oily and must have epoxies for laminations since white glues, which are water soluable will de-laminate.

As far as the number of laminations, though there is some sound quality produced by every wood species and layer, in the thickness being laminated, it is more for asthetics than tone.

I found it interesting how fast they were working as though the epoxy were going to set-up and then they left the bodies in the press without running it down. Then I realized that they must be using an epoxy with a long set time, so the speed really did not matter - unless the boss is watching. :D


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