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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:44 pm
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Thats kool, i have a few. some a hole just stole a glock modle 19 9mm from me. to bad i wasent home at the time. and lucky they dident see my equipment, i would die if i lost that.


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I hope we never loose the right bluebondsman though the new administartion scares the hell out of me. The Socialist have to take away our guns in order to control society. The first step of every Goverment wanting to to control the the people is to first make owners regester all there arms with them, then there next step is to confiscat for the good of the people. Then the only People who will own a firearm will be the criminals and the Goverment. Look at Washigton DC itself you have not been allowed to own a firearm there for over 20 years you see how well that worked out and look at maryland it is next to impossible to get a right to carry permit for your own security but there will be well over 300 shooting deaths in Baltimore alone and over a 1000 shootings. Whos doing these? The criminals not the law abiding owners.
Wel I am just ranting!

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What is it about owning a gun, sorry I don't get it.
I'm glad its very severly policed in the UK and have to go thro strict tests to be licenced to own a firarm. Even better then they have to be stored in secured storage. Again regularly inspected by the police.
And even better can't be carried on the streets.


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Post subject: give me back my guns.
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i own a 340 wetherby,for elk, 270 win.short mag,for deer,coyotes,and varmits in general,44 mag,revolver for what ever.


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I am a gun owner. :lol:


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I have one semi auto S&W 9mm at home for self defense and several rifles and shotguns at my parents that hang over the desk. I don't hunt like I used to. I have owned several other guns in the past but sold them due to my economic situation at the time. I'd like to have them back.

I'm a past supporter of the NRA and most likely will join again. I'm all for the right to carry arms as long as the individual knows how and when to use it.

Kennesaw a small town in the state of Georgia (USA) required homeowners to have a gun in their home. During th 1990s their burglary rate went way down.... :D I don't know if this is still in effect or not...

Most southern States in the US have a concealed carry permit that is available for any law abiding citzen that takes and passes the required course.

I'm just glad they don't require that for guitar players... :wink:

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I do own a Remington 870 express 12 gauge. It's just for messing around though, shooting some clays and blowing up watermelons(my grandma gives me and my brother the ones that go bad so we take them to the range). :D


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cvilleira wrote:
I hope we never loose the right bluebondsman though the new administartion scares the hell out of me. The Socialist have to take away our guns in order to control society. The first step of every Goverment wanting to to control the the people is to first make owners regester all there arms with them, then there next step is to confiscat for the good of the people. Then the only People who will own a firearm will be the criminals and the Goverment. Look at Washigton DC itself you have not been allowed to own a firearm there for over 20 years you see how well that worked out and look at maryland it is next to impossible to get a right to carry permit for your own security but there will be well over 300 shooting deaths in Baltimore alone and over a 1000 shootings. Whos doing these? The criminals not the law abiding owners.
Wel I am just ranting!


What has the new administration done to take away our guns? I totaly agree with the points you make about Gun Control. You only control honest people and force the innocent outside of the law. But so far I haven't seen any evidence that Obama has any intention of banning any guns.

In fact, i'd like to know what exectly Republicans do to help keep guns? Have they ever Overturned a bad bit of legislature to give gun rights back? Has the NRA ever pressured a legistative body into reversing a bad gun law? Bill Clinton made sure there was a time limit on his bit of Bad Gun Legislature, that was passed by a Republican house. Before you jump to the conclusion that I'm a Gun Banning Liberal, I believe we should be able to own Fully Automatic weapons if we want, since their so readily availibe on the black market. I just never seen the Republicans actually do anything but talk a big game and let legistation pass, Even When They Have The Power of Veto (I'm looking at you Pete Wilson).

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FirstMeasure wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
I hope we never loose the right bluebondsman though the new administartion scares the hell out of me. The Socialist have to take away our guns in order to control society. The first step of every Goverment wanting to to control the the people is to first make owners regester all there arms with them, then there next step is to confiscat for the good of the people. Then the only People who will own a firearm will be the criminals and the Goverment. Look at Washigton DC itself you have not been allowed to own a firearm there for over 20 years you see how well that worked out and look at maryland it is next to impossible to get a right to carry permit for your own security but there will be well over 300 shooting deaths in Baltimore alone and over a 1000 shootings. Whos doing these? The criminals not the law abiding owners.
Wel I am just ranting!


What has the new administration done to take away our guns? I totaly agree with the points you make about Gun Control. You only control honest people and force the innocent outside of the law. But so far I haven't seen any evidence that Obama has any intention of banning any guns.

In fact, i'd like to know what exectly Republicans do to help keep guns? Have they ever Overturned a bad bit of legislature to give gun rights back? Has the NRA ever pressured a legistative body into reversing a bad gun law? Bill Clinton made sure there was a time limit on his bit of Bad Gun Legislature, that was passed by a Republican house. Before you jump to the conclusion that I'm a Gun Banning Liberal, I believe we should be able to own Fully Automatic weapons if we want, since their so readily availibe on the black market. I just never seen the Republicans actually do anything but talk a big game and let legistation pass, Even When They Have The Power of Veto (I'm looking at you Pete Wilson).
You can own a full-auto if you so desire. All you have to do is pay the federal transfer tax and fill out a few forms and wait. It takes a while but it can be done.


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FirstMeasure wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
I hope we never loose the right bluebondsman though the new administartion scares the hell out of me. The Socialist have to take away our guns in order to control society. The first step of every Goverment wanting to to control the the people is to first make owners regester all there arms with them, then there next step is to confiscat for the good of the people. Then the only People who will own a firearm will be the criminals and the Goverment. Look at Washigton DC itself you have not been allowed to own a firearm there for over 20 years you see how well that worked out and look at maryland it is next to impossible to get a right to carry permit for your own security but there will be well over 300 shooting deaths in Baltimore alone and over a 1000 shootings. Whos doing these? The criminals not the law abiding owners.
Wel I am just ranting!


What has the new administration done to take away our guns? I totaly agree with the points you make about Gun Control. You only control honest people and force the innocent outside of the law. But so far I haven't seen any evidence that Obama has any intention of banning any guns.

In fact, i'd like to know what exectly Republicans do to help keep guns? Have they ever Overturned a bad bit of legislature to give gun rights back? Has the NRA ever pressured a legistative body into reversing a bad gun law? Bill Clinton made sure there was a time limit on his bit of Bad Gun Legislature, that was passed by a Republican house. Before you jump to the conclusion that I'm a Gun Banning Liberal, I believe we should be able to own Fully Automatic weapons if we want, since their so readily availibe on the black market. I just never seen the Republicans actually do anything but talk a big game and let legistation pass, Even When They Have The Power of Veto (I'm looking at you Pete Wilson).

Hi, Firstmeasure How you doing?
I did not say obama has done anything just his past speeches scare me me because of his beliefs that he has said. And the Repullican party has stop legeslation in the past concerning firearms as well as a few Democrats in States where they no if they were for some controls asked for it would be a Kiss of death to them in politics.

Obama April 16 2008
As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can’t constrain the exercise of that right, in the same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it. End Quote

Obama 1996
Actually, Obama’s writing was on the 1996 document, which was filed when Obama was running for the Illinois state Senate. A Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois, had this question, and Obama took hard line:
Answers : Do you support state legislation to:
a. ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns? Yes.
b. ban assault weapons? Yes.
c. mandatory waiting periods and background checks? Yes.

This one he said in Feb 2008 like there are no laws to take illegal guns of the street now. Whst does illegal mean? If we pas more laws are they more illegal. Heres what he said.
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Because I think we have two conflicting traditions in this country. I think it’s important for us to recognize that we’ve got a tradition of handgun ownership and gun ownership generally. And a lot of law-abiding citizens use it for hunting, for sportsmanship, and for protecting their families. We also have a violence on the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage. And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the Second Amendment and people’s traditions.
End Quote;
Thats a load of double speak if I ever heard it.

Hopefully we will not have to worry about to many of his gun control beliefs this term because he wants to get re-elected in 4 years then they might be bad whats he got to loose then. We will see.
Coming to you from Maryland captital of stupid gun cotrol laws and home of the city of Baltimore were there will be over 1200 shooting this year and 320 Dead. Don't even want to talk about DC. and PG County those three make Iraq look like a piece of cake with gun deaths. Where all the outrage about that from the people protesting Iraq thats just the criminals in three places here in the U.S.

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cvilleira wrote:
FirstMeasure wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
I hope we never loose the right bluebondsman though the new administartion scares the hell out of me. The Socialist have to take away our guns in order to control society. The first step of every Goverment wanting to to control the the people is to first make owners regester all there arms with them, then there next step is to confiscat for the good of the people. Then the only People who will own a firearm will be the criminals and the Goverment. Look at Washigton DC itself you have not been allowed to own a firearm there for over 20 years you see how well that worked out and look at maryland it is next to impossible to get a right to carry permit for your own security but there will be well over 300 shooting deaths in Baltimore alone and over a 1000 shootings. Whos doing these? The criminals not the law abiding owners.
Wel I am just ranting!


What has the new administration done to take away our guns? I totaly agree with the points you make about Gun Control. You only control honest people and force the innocent outside of the law. But so far I haven't seen any evidence that Obama has any intention of banning any guns.

In fact, i'd like to know what exectly Republicans do to help keep guns? Have they ever Overturned a bad bit of legislature to give gun rights back? Has the NRA ever pressured a legistative body into reversing a bad gun law? Bill Clinton made sure there was a time limit on his bit of Bad Gun Legislature, that was passed by a Republican house. Before you jump to the conclusion that I'm a Gun Banning Liberal, I believe we should be able to own Fully Automatic weapons if we want, since their so readily availibe on the black market. I just never seen the Republicans actually do anything but talk a big game and let legistation pass, Even When They Have The Power of Veto (I'm looking at you Pete Wilson).

Hi, Firstmeasure How you doing?
I did not say obama has done anything just his past speeches scare me me because of his beliefs that he has said. And the Repullican party has stop legeslation in the past concerning firearms as well as a few Democrats in States where they no if they were for some controls asked for it would be a Kiss of death to them in politics.

Obama April 16 2008
As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can’t constrain the exercise of that right, in the same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it. End Quote

Obama 1996
Actually, Obama’s writing was on the 1996 document, which was filed when Obama was running for the Illinois state Senate. A Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois, had this question, and Obama took hard line:
Answers : Do you support state legislation to:
a. ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns? Yes.
b. ban assault weapons? Yes.
c. mandatory waiting periods and background checks? Yes.

This one he said in Feb 2008 like there are no laws to take illegal guns of the street now. Whst does illegal mean? If we pas more laws are they more illegal. Heres what he said.
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Because I think we have two conflicting traditions in this country. I think it’s important for us to recognize that we’ve got a tradition of handgun ownership and gun ownership generally. And a lot of law-abiding citizens use it for hunting, for sportsmanship, and for protecting their families. We also have a violence on the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage. And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the Second Amendment and people’s traditions.
End Quote;Tthats a load of double speak if I ever heard it.

Hopefully we will not have to worry about to many of his gun control beliefs this term because he wants to get re-elected in 4 years then they might be bad whats he got to loose then. We will see.
Coming to you from Maryland captital of stupid gun cotrol laws and home of the city of Baltimore were there will be over 1200 shooting this year and 320 Dead. Don't even want to talk about DC. and PG County those three make Iraq look like a piece of cake with gun deaths. Where all the outrage about that from the people protesting Iraq thats just the criminals in three places here in the U.S.

Hi cvilleira, I'm doin' alright. Sorry I forgot to say Hi before diving right into an issue like that :oops:

Yeah, Obama's a Politician and he says politically charged things. That's one of the thing I didn't like about him at first. But I am engouraged by the fact that he's not using this prime political opportunity to pass gun laws while we're all staring at the Economy. If he does, he's losing those Red States and he knows it.

It's pretty obvious to me hat we need more enforcement in the cities on existing crimes. Like extortion, murder, kidnapping, and crimes that guns are blamed for. I wish I had a solution, but more cops in bad neigborhoods sound like a good idea, but that only cost our Boys in Blue thier lives. In the U.S. Territories of the 1800's if the Marshall was killed by a gang of outlaws who then took over the town, the U.S. Army would move in and set up some peace. Now that it's all states, we can't do that with the National Guard?

But don't worry, if the Democrats get all Gun Banny again, there's enough Democratic Voteres to stop it. We're pretty tired of the issue blocking good economic policy.

One thing I will say, a city like New York might want to restrict owning a Gun that can penetrate 5 walls when their entire population lives in Tenements. That's the only grey area I'll admit to seeing in the Gun Control issue.

I'd also like to know why the Supreme Court hasn't overturned any state bans on guns? They don't mind overturning Medical Marijuana laws. How about that 2nd Amendment there Guys?

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[quote\]I'd also like to know why the Supreme Court hasn't overturned any state bans on guns? They don't mind overturning Medical Marijuana laws. How about that 2nd Amendment there Guys?[/quote]

Actually the supreme court just recently overturned the D.C. gun ban.


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YZFJOE wrote:
[quote\]I'd also like to know why the Supreme Court hasn't overturned any state bans on guns? They don't mind overturning Medical Marijuana laws. How about that 2nd Amendment there Guys?


Actually the supreme court just recently overturned the D.C. gun ban.[/quote]
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Oh, that's very different. Nevermind!

Seriously, that's good news.

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I have to agree with the Texas thing.

I moved to TX from NY and was a little surprised when entering buildings and they had signs about no concealed guns. I was like...what :? My girlfriends all "pack” I remember the first time I was rummaging through my friends purse and went "what's that?" And she was like that's my gun, I pack. I was impressed and thought "cool" I want one.

I heard the other day that some states are passing laws where you can wear your gun in plain view, on a hip holster or shoulder holster or whatever.

I can see it now, riding down the highway on my HD packin'. Maybe cars would be a little more respectful of motorcycles on the road if all us riders had unconcealed guns. Pack up the rifle on my Iron Horse. I thought wow; wild, wild west here we come. Yippee kie hey MF!

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You know, that is probably a good idea. If you stop and think about it, the eras of history in which people openly carried weapons were also the times when manners were most elaborate and important.

Amazing how polite people get when being a rude jackass can get you killed on the spot....

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