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Post subject: The guitar as part of an ensemble.
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:40 am
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There is something special about a guitar band, these guys will sometimes detune a half step or jump through hoops trying to get their singer to fall in with the particular qualities that an A chord can do.
As special as an axe band can be, there are those groups that include keyboards.
Try as you might, sooner or later you will find yourself wondering why keyboards fill in the void to the extent that they can.
I once saw, hmm, I think it was Herb Ellis who played his gig on PBS a few years ago.
It was with his unplugged jazz guitar.
You would never believe how many things he could do with just six strings, he filled that audience with chords that you would think were impossible for a guitarist.

There have been a good number of successful groups that have made use of the keyboard to the extent that they are ideal for really decent background fills and solo's that a guitar band would not be able to do.
At the moment there are not that many groups that feature this particular type of band, yet there are plenty of examples in popular music like Deep Purple, Journey, Foreigner, REO Speedwagon and Toto, that have supplied popular music with many a top 40 hit.

So, while there's not that many groups active at the moment, there are plenty of examples to follow when it comes to getting the most out of a guitar when you don't have to choose between playing rythym or lead.
You have to adopt an open mind, you should also be open to what that one extra instrument can take you as an individual and as a group.


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Post subject: Re: The guitar as part of an ensemble.
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:20 am
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There is something special about a guitar band, these guys will sometimes detune a half step or jump through hoops trying to get their singer to fall in with the particular qualities that an A chord can do.
As special as an axe band can be, there are those groups that include keyboards.
Try as you might, sooner or later you will find yourself wondering why keyboards fill in the void to the extent that they can.
I once saw, hmm, I think it was Herb Ellis who played his gig on PBS a few years ago.
It was with his unplugged jazz guitar.
You would never believe how many things he could do with just six strings, he filled that audience with chords that you would think were impossible for a guitarist.

There have been a good number of successful groups that have made use of the keyboard to the extent that they are ideal for really decent background fills and solo's that a guitar band would not be able to do.
At the moment there are not that many groups that feature this particular type of band, yet there are plenty of examples in popular music like Deep Purple, Journey, Foreigner, REO Speedwagon and Toto, that have supplied popular music with many a top 40 hit.

So, while there's not that many groups active at the moment, there are plenty of examples to follow when it comes to getting the most out of a guitar when you don't have to choose between playing rythym or lead.
You have to adopt an open mind, you should also be open to what that one extra instrument can take you as an individual and as a group.

bro, whats up! not sure exactly were you wanted this to go, i talk to computer wizards from time to time and the best ones apparently are independent , me wondering if the time will come when all of the music will be archived and programmers will develope hits after days of programming instead of some sixteen year old with a guitar and some emotion or keyboard for that matter. technical expertise and knowledge is important without question, but, it can't do this, ever, 'one two three o'clock four o'clock rock'.

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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:38 am
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i think i understand your point, and there are alot of open chords i use that seem to just fill the spaces,sound fuller, and make the over all sound so much bigger,
or even just using normal chords but corectly and ath the correct times.

another great band with a great pianist is PINK FLOYD, gilmore is an amazing guitarist, makes use of the biggest sounds he can make, and yet
there sound would not be so powerfull and moving had it not been for the beutifull work put in by the late, great richard wright, a founding member and a self taught pianist.

RIP richard, thank you so very much for helping me apreciate real music.


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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:52 am
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I was part of an acoustic guitar improv session once. No one could play a chord. A person played lead and strummed a riff of about 6 notes. There were about 6 people in the group and each had to find a hole and fill in with their own riff. Once we got this going, it was amazing how it all worked and sounded. Then we joined three other groups, doing the same. There was no duplication, no chords, just players listening and finding a place. It was amazing, I wish I had recorded it. It was a great exercise in learning how to listen and finding a hole to fill.


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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:21 pm
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Good stuff, forgot Pink Floyd.
If there's one song that really shines as an example, it would be "faithfully" by Journey.
See what you guys come up with.


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