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I didn't mention what type of blues!! I like Chicago, Delta, and Texas Blues. Stuff like Muddy Waters, Elmore James, Robert Johnson, SRV and so on!


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I saw these guys live a few months ago and it was one of the best shows I ever seen. They're not really blues, but you may like it anyway.

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Check out Blind Willie Johnson--there's a two CD set of all his recordings out there--you may recognize some of them from Kaiser & Mansfield's albums.

I like a lot of older black gospel music--and some of that was quite bluesy.

I like Kaiser and Mansfield's collaboration with Kaiser.
As far as contemporary examples he is my favorite, so many others seem artificial.

But Blind Willie Johnson leads the pack--especially his slide work. Then there's Rev Gary Davis, Dan Brown, Blind Boys of Alabama, Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee did some good gospel stuff, as did Mississippi Fred McDowell.

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But my question is this: Isn't "Christian Blues" kind of an oxymoron? I mean think about it; we have the promise of eternal life with the Almighty God in paradise! What do we have to be blue about? Everything that happens on this earth just doesn't matter in the great scheme of things.


Read Psalms again. In many of them David has got the blues. :)

In fact, a whole bunch of people all throughout the Bible have got it too. There's a time to be happy and there's a time to be sad. If your best friend was going through something terrible and started crying, would you tell them it didn't matter and that they have to be happy all the time? I hope not. :lol: That would just be wrong.


I know. Just having some fun. Even Jesus had the blues when Lazarus died. John 11:35. One of the most powerful passages in the Bible!

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"Christian blues." What a horrifying concept.

Not because Christians don't have the blues. Of course they do.

It's a horrifying concept because it implies, as the existence of all so-called "Christian" pop music does, that Christians should avoid/be afraid of/shun/hold at arms length the actual real blues, and need some kind of non-offensive alternative version that it's "okay" to listen to.

Just listen to Hound Dog and Buddy Guy. If your faith can't handle it, then maybe it's not as hot as you thought it was. It's like saying atheists shouldn't listen to Bach, for fear all that God-praising stuff will rub off.


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Twelvebar wrote:
Not strictly 'blues' but I would suggest listening to 'The Gospel Hummingbirds'

A lot of overlap between gospel and good (old, not the new boring pap that passes nowadays,) R&B. Stylistically, maybe the content is a bit different.


Blast! I was going to post that this morning!

I have another suggestion though. I noted that you are aware of Darrel Mansfield, if you have Shades there are 2 songs by Blind Willie Johnson on it. As a result of hearing these I picked one of his compilation cds up and he is pretty good to hear (though his voice is a little gruff and takes some getting used to at first). He does traditional gospel and slide guitar. I also reccomend the Rev Gary Davis. He and Willie were a few from the same era (the 20's to 40's) refered to as the Guitar Evangelists.

So if you like traditional blues with a Gospel flair I certainly recommend these two. I set up a Blind Willie Johnon radio on Pandora and you can get some good tunes from other similiar artists.

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I tried to find a link on You Tube but couldn't find the entire song- but check out Lincoln Brewster's "The Arms of My Savior" - very nice. Also Lincoln is one heck of a guitar player AND his axe of choice is a Strat! :D

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"Christian blues." What a horrifying concept.

Not because Christians don't have the blues. Of course they do.

It's a horrifying concept because it implies, as the existence of all so-called "Christian" pop music does, that Christians should avoid/be afraid of/shun/hold at arms length the actual real blues, and need some kind of non-offensive alternative version that it's "okay" to listen to.

Just listen to Hound Dog and Buddy Guy. If your faith can't handle it, then maybe it's not as hot as you thought it was. It's like saying atheists shouldn't listen to Bach, for fear all that God-praising stuff will rub off.


No, no, I don't think that's what it implies at all - when any type of music is categorized as "Christian", it just refers to the lyrics and main message of the song, and doesn't mean other artists are off limits to a believer. That's just personal preference. "Nobody knows the trouble I've seen..." now there's some blues...


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Interesting concept, 'can't say it has ever been heard, here.

What are some of the more common lyrical subjects and what makes them especially ecclestical?

This wry mind began pondering lyrical blues subjects for other denominations.

Buddhist: "Oh yeah, oh no, I stepped on a bug and quashed its soul."

Hindu: "I lived me a bad life, 'gonna reincarnate as a dung beetle."

Native American: "Oh, them buffalo, they all so far away. Gonna wear the soles of my moccasins through chasing them, trying to get me a steak."

Pagan Pacific Islander: "Oh, no, big ol' typhoon be comin' an I only got a grass hut to protect my sorry afs fro 160 mile per hour winds."


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Interesting concept, 'can't say it has ever been heard, here.

What are some of the more common lyrical subjects and what makes them especially ecclestical?

This wry mind began pondering lyrical blues subjects for other denominations.

Buddhist: "Oh yeah, oh no, I stepped on a bug and quashed its soul."

Hindu: "I lived me a bad life, 'gonna reincarnate as a dung beetle."

Native American: "Oh, them buffalo, they all so far away. Gonna wear the soles of my moccasins through chasing them, trying to get me a steak."

Pagan Pacific Islander: "Oh, no, big ol' typhoon be comin' an I only got a grass hut to protect my sorry afs fro 160 mile per hour winds."


Love your blues subjects for other denominations! :lol: To answer your question, the subject of "Christian" lyrics usually centers around trust in Jesus, faith that no matter how hard it gets, there is hope and salvation in Jesus. In my example off the top of my head "Nobody knows the trouble I've seen, nobody knows but Jesus..." the music may not be the blues, but the lyrics certainly are! Although I suppose the old spirituals really are the blues. Another that comes to mind for an example of the "Christian" lyric focus, although not the blues, is "Friend of a Wounded Heart" (Wayne Watson).


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Thank you for the compliment and explanation.

However, on the subject of Christian Blues, a quote just came to mind from His Holiness, Pope John Paul II, which in this instance "does not recommend" personal playing of Christian Blues.

"Live your Faith, JOYFULLY!"


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sulley107 wrote:
Twelvebar wrote:
Not strictly 'blues' but I would suggest listening to 'The Gospel Hummingbirds'

A lot of overlap between gospel and good (old, not the new boring pap that passes nowadays,) R&B. Stylistically, maybe the content is a bit different.


Blast! I was going to post that this morning!

I have another suggestion though. I noted that you are aware of Darrel Mansfield, if you have Shades there are 2 songs by Blind Willie Johnson on it. As a result of hearing these I picked one of his compilation cds up and he is pretty good to hear (though his voice is a little gruff and takes some getting used to at first). He does traditional gospel and slide guitar. I also reccomend the Rev Gary Davis. He and Willie were a few from the same era (the 20's to 40's) refered to as the Guitar Evangelists.

So if you like traditional blues with a Gospel flair I certainly recommend these two. I set up a Blind Willie Johnon radio on Pandora and you can get some good tunes from other similiar artists.


See somebody else mentioned Blind WIllie Johnson & Rev Gary Davis.

I think that's a sign you should check them out, if you don't know about them already.

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bmcmillin wrote:
Okay. I have a question. First of all, I am a Christian and not just in name, I am active in my church.

But my question is this: Isn't "Christian Blues" kind of an oxymoron? I mean think about it; we have the promise of eternal life with the Almighty God in paradise! What do we have to be blue about? Everything that happens on this earth just doesn't matter in the great scheme of things.

Just an observation.

I know, I know. It is a type and style of music. I am just having a bit of fun! :)



Good point. But I think no matter what you believe in, you always have those hard times in life. For example, my great grandfather was murdered in Poland during the Soviet Union era for not accepting the ways of communist teachings. Then his son (my grandpa) was arrested for possesion of a christian Bible.

And besides, not all blues are ment to be "sad" or blue.
I've heard many great bright themed blues=oxymoron, but who cares if it's an oxymoron. As long as the message is strong and the music is good!


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bluestratocaster wrote:
bmcmillin wrote:
Okay. I have a question. First of all, I am a Christian and not just in name, I am active in my church.

But my question is this: Isn't "Christian Blues" kind of an oxymoron? I mean think about it; we have the promise of eternal life with the Almighty God in paradise! What do we have to be blue about? Everything that happens on this earth just doesn't matter in the great scheme of things.

Just an observation.

I know, I know. It is a type and style of music. I am just having a bit of fun! :)



Good point. But I think no matter what you believe in, you always have those hard times in life. For example, my great grandfather was murdered in Poland during the Soviet Union era for not accepting the ways of communist teachings. Then his son (my grandpa) was arrested for possesion of a christian Bible.

And besides, not all blues are ment to be "sad" or blue.
I've heard many great bright themed blues=oxymoron, but who cares if it's an oxymoron. As long as the message is strong and the music is good!


Excellent Point.

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Check out Larry Howard. He is one serious blues guitarist. He used to play with GrinderSwitch, who started out as the Allman Brothers' road crew. When he started playing Christian music he kept his blues style. Its very, very good music.

There is a live recording called Into The Night by Mansfield, Howard and Kaiser that's excellent. It can be ordered from ChristinaBlues.net.

Also, if you like Jonny Lang, he has a collection of Christian tunes called Turn Around that you might enjoy.


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