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Post subject: The Day The Music Died
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:46 am
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From http://www.thisdayinmusic.com

A young Bob Dylan attended the Duluth National Guard Armory show on 31st January 1959, two nights before Holly's death.

The family name was "Holley". When Buddy received his first recording contract from Decca Records in 1956, they inadvertently spelled his last name as "Holly". He kept it that way for the rest of his career.

Buddy failed his draft physical because of his poor eyesight.

Many groups from the era named themselves after insects, they did the same and choose "Crickets" as it was the only insect, which made its own "music", by chirping. (They almost named themselves the Beetles!).

Buddy had watched the John Wayne movie The Searchers. Each time that Wayne became disgruntled with something someone said, he'd mutter "That'll be the day". That catch phrase became the title of the first hit record by Buddy.

"Peggy Sue" was an actual person. Peggy Sue Gerron attended Lubbock High School and was the girlfriend and eventual wife of Jerry Allison, Buddy Holly's drummer.

Buddy Holly and the Crickets were the first all-white group to perform at New York's famed Apollo Theatre.

He was one of the first rock 'n' rollers to use overdubbing when one-track recording was the rule, and one of the first to use strings on a rock 'n' roll record.

Their tour busses kept breaking down and when they arrived in Clear Lake, Iowa to perform at the Surf Ballroom the evening of February 2, 1959, Buddy decided to charter a small plane to their next stop.

The Beechcraft Bonanza, named "Miss American Pie," took off from Mason City, at around 1:50 AM on February 3, 1959. The weather was cold and snowy. The plane crashed just after taking off. The pilot, Valens, Richardson and Holly were all killed.

Don McLean's 1971 "American Pie" is inspired by the day of the plane crash.

Rolling Stone Magazine ranked Holly No.13 on their list of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time.

Paul McCartney owns the publishing rights to Holly's song catalogue.

The 1992 Nirvana video for "In Bloom" is filmed in Black and white using 1950s era television cameras and shows the band appearing in 1950s attire, (including Kurt Cobain wearing Buddy Holly style glasses) in an apparent tribute.

Weezer's self-titled debut album features the single "Buddy Holly."

On Feb 29th 1980, the glasses that Buddy Holly had been wearing when he died were discovered in a police file in Mason, Iowa after being there for over 21 years.


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on the CS forum ,there is a thread with a picture of a MB unofficial Buddy Holly strat 3 burst. sweet guitar .


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Let's not forget Ritchie Valens - probably the first Latino rock/pop star

and the Big Bopper (JP Richardson) - one of the first deejays to play rock n' roll (race) records.

Big loss! Rest in Peace, gentlemen! & thanx!!

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I know 60's Rock & Roll would have been a lot different if Buddy Holly were around to carry on. I'd like to know what 1964 would have been like with Hendrix, Cream and Holly on the Bill.

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me and my teacher were talking about this and he didn't know if it was true but there was a supposedly a coin toss between him and Ritchie valens(?) to get on the plane can anyone verify?

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In their coverage of this anniversary today the BBC mentioned that John Lennon renamed his band The Beatles in honor of Buddy Holly and the Crickets - he wanted an insect name like them!

Wonder if so many of us would be playing Strats without the kick start Buddy gave them...?

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Buddy Holly's shadow still looms over the music industry. he was really the first to stand up to the record companies, and put out his own music.

From not backing down on using drums, to insisting on using his own band instead of session musicians, to recording and retaining the rights to his own songs, rather than just using the record companies' stable of players, and catalogue of material, he made musical freedom of expression a posibility, in a way many of his contemporaries didn't.

The standard rock band format with guitar bass and drums was all him. he layed the foundation for everyone that followed.


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stryder1017 wrote:
me and my teacher were talking about this and he didn't know if it was true but there was a supposedly a coin toss between him and Ritchie valens(?) to get on the plane can anyone verify?


The coin flip is portrayed in the film La Bamba. In the film it is between Valens and another artist on the tour. I am not 100% sure but off the top of my head I believe it was Waylon Jennings.

Can anyone else confirm?

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-Ryco wrote:
Let's not forget Ritchie Valens - probably the first Latino rock/pop star

and the Big Bopper (JP Richardson) - one of the first deejays to play rock n' roll (race) records.

Big loss! Rest in Peace, gentlemen! & thanx!!


+1 Thanks for the memories!

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nicholsoni wrote:
stryder1017 wrote:
me and my teacher were talking about this and he didn't know if it was true but there was a supposedly a coin toss between him and Ritchie valens(?) to get on the plane can anyone verify?


The coin flip is portrayed in the film La Bamba. In the film it is between Valens and another artist on the tour. I am not 100% sure but off the top of my head I believe it was Waylon Jennings.

Can anyone else confirm?


Budddy Holly chartered the plane for his guys (Waylon [bs] & Tommy Allsup [drm])

Waylon gave up his seat to Big Bopper who was running a fever.

Tommy Allsup flipped a coin with Valens for the last seat.

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Post subject: Re: The Day The Music Died
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:58 am
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Spiritinthesky wrote:
From http://www.thisdayinmusic.com

A young Bob Dylan attended the Duluth National Guard Armory show on 31st January 1959, two nights before Holly's death.

The family name was "Holley". When Buddy received his first recording contract from Decca Records in 1956, they inadvertently spelled his last name as "Holly". He kept it that way for the rest of his career.

Buddy failed his draft physical because of his poor eyesight.

Many groups from the era named themselves after insects, they did the same and choose "Crickets" as it was the only insect, which made its own "music", by chirping. (They almost named themselves the Beetles!).

Buddy had watched the John Wayne movie The Searchers. Each time that Wayne became disgruntled with something someone said, he'd mutter "That'll be the day". That catch phrase became the title of the first hit record by Buddy.

"Peggy Sue" was an actual person. Peggy Sue Gerron attended Lubbock High School and was the girlfriend and eventual wife of Jerry Allison, Buddy Holly's drummer.

Buddy Holly and the Crickets were the first all-white group to perform at New York's famed Apollo Theatre.

He was one of the first rock 'n' rollers to use overdubbing when one-track recording was the rule, and one of the first to use strings on a rock 'n' roll record.

Their tour busses kept breaking down and when they arrived in Clear Lake, Iowa to perform at the Surf Ballroom the evening of February 2, 1959, Buddy decided to charter a small plane to their next stop.

The Beechcraft Bonanza, named "Miss American Pie," took off from Mason City, at around 1:50 AM on February 3, 1959. The weather was cold and snowy. The plane crashed just after taking off. The pilot, Valens, Richardson and Holly were all killed.

Don McLean's 1971 "American Pie" is inspired by the day of the plane crash.

Rolling Stone Magazine ranked Holly No.13 on their list of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time.

Paul McCartney owns the publishing rights to Holly's song catalogue.

The 1992 Nirvana video for "In Bloom" is filmed in Black and white using 1950s era television cameras and shows the band appearing in 1950s attire, (including Kurt Cobain wearing Buddy Holly style glasses) in an apparent tribute.

Weezer's self-titled debut album features the single "Buddy Holly."

On Feb 29th 1980, the glasses that Buddy Holly had been wearing when he died were discovered in a police file in Mason, Iowa after being there for over 21 years.


Just curious, but where did you hear that the plane was called "Miss American Pie"? Is this true? Can anyone else verify this? I've been a Buddy Holly fan for over 20 years and have read a lot of biographical stuff on him, but this is the first I've ever heard about the plane's name.

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Post subject: Re: The Day The Music Died
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:22 pm
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stratdemon72 wrote:
Spiritinthesky wrote:
From http://www.thisdayinmusic.com

The Beechcraft Bonanza, named "Miss American Pie," took off from Mason City, at around 1:50 AM on February 3, 1959. The weather was cold and snowy. The plane crashed just after taking off. The pilot, Valens, Richardson and Holly were all killed.

Don McLean's 1971 "American Pie" is inspired by the day of the plane crash....


Just curious, but where did you hear that the plane was called "Miss American Pie"? Is this true? Can anyone else verify this? I've been a Buddy Holly fan for over 20 years and have read a lot of biographical stuff on him, but this is the first I've ever heard about the plane's name.


In all the years I've heard the plane crash story, it's the first time I've heard that "Miss American Pie" was the name of the plane! Has someone just extrapolated from the song??

Anyone got Don McLean's phone number...? ;)

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no check out buddyhollyonline.com Here is the real story. "American Pie" was not the name of the plane because the plane never had one. My guess is that Don McLean could not make a rhyme with "bye bye Miss “N3794N”.... "


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no check out buddyhollyonline.com Here is the real story. "American Pie" was not the name of the plane because the plane never had one. My guess is that Don McLean could not make a rhyme with "bye bye Miss “N3794N”.... "


That's what I was thinking!

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