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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:12 am
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I just bought an American Standard Strat. It has a feature called "Delta Tone." which affects the middle and bridge pickups. Is there some demonstation video that illustrates the difference between this and a normal tone control? I really don't understand the difference.


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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:05 am
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It's just a no-load tone switch. Most tone knobs have a little effect on the tone, even if you have them up to 10. Delta Tone has an indent at 10 where there is no load or effect on the pure tone of the guitar.

While this is a nice option for some instances, it can make the tone too shrill and trebly depending on your rig. Rolling it out of the indent, to 9, simulate a normal tone control at 10.

Not a huge different, you basically just get a little more clarity which can mean extra treble.

I haven't seen any videos on this and I wouldn't expect there to be any for this small difference.


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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:22 am
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dgonz is correct it removes the load that the switch puts on the circut like theres no tone knob there. Nice when you use pedals and there controls.

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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:32 am
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I mess with my tone a lot anyway. If I'm using a lot of gain, on my bridge jb jr, I'll put that on 10 a lot of times to get an extra sharp, crystal clear attack. Same with some blues on the neck pickup at times as well, to get some extra grit in there. Or, for some very shimmering Eric Johnson type cleans, I'll put that on 10 as well.

But I do mess with the tone knob a lot. And what sounds good at practice level, doesn't always sound good at sound check so I adjust it again. And what sounds great at an empty hall at sound check doesn't always sound good with a room full or noisy people, so you adjust again. And not just that tone knob, but the EQ on your amp as well, and sometimes the board you're running through.

Basically, you have to really learn your gear, how to get your tone in any circumstance, and how to do it quickly.


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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:43 am
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It is hard to get the same sound from place to place for sure and then the mic setups being different :shock: I don't do that kind of stuff much anymore just a occasional open mic night most times thru the Music shop that they do often.

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dgonz wrote:
And what sounds good at practice level, doesn't always sound good at sound check so I adjust it again. And what sounds great at an empty hall at sound check doesn't always sound good with a room full or noisy people, so you adjust again. And not just that tone knob, but the EQ on your amp as well, and sometimes the board you're running through.



Cracking bit of advice there. I always suspected bodies make a difference to room acoustics.

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cvilleira wrote:
It is hard to get the same sound from place to place for sure and then the mic setups being different :shock:


Yes, unfortunately I remember it took me a long time to come to this revelation when I was young. I, like probably a lot of new players, thought that the settings I had in my bedroom would sound just as good when I cranked the amp at practice or at a party, etc. Then I'd get majorly frustrated when it didn't, and I thought my gear sucked.

After so many of these, you'll start learning things like "wait a minute, it sounded great earlier, but now there are people and it sounds like crap. why? hmmmm, less hard surfaces for the treble. i'll boost the treble a bit so it cuts through a little better, and try that." I didn't have anyone to really tell me all these little things, I just figured them out after a lot of hair pulling. When some of my students would gig, I'll load them up with check points, things to consider, etc - which they loved and passed on to their band members. No need for the next generation to go through what we went through :)


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nikininja wrote:
dgonz wrote:
And what sounds good at practice level, doesn't always sound good at sound check so I adjust it again. And what sounds great at an empty hall at sound check doesn't always sound good with a room full or noisy people, so you adjust again. And not just that tone knob, but the EQ on your amp as well, and sometimes the board you're running through.



Cracking bit of advice there. I always suspected bodies make a difference to room acoustics.

Hey nik some bodies more then others :oops: I say that being a little over 6'4"and 215-220 taken up space.

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The delta tone pickups are some pickups I wish I'd always had. My american standards are loaded with them and they are really sweet sounding pickups.

I usually leave them on 10 unless I need something a bit darker voiced. Strats are so versatile, and these pickups make them even more versatile. It really works! On 10 you get what I would call a natural "woody" guitar tone with overdrive,and a clean shimmery tone on cleaner settings. Rolling it down any effects things a bit, taming the highs.

Experiment with it , you'll find some pleasing results.

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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:58 am
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Pops. 'Misread the subject.

'Thought "Delta Tone" was a cheap guitar through a cheap amp with bad tubes.


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