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I don't believe in the Old Bands anymore. I remeber the day after I found out the awful truth about Saint Nicholas, my Big Brother said to me,"You're so dumb you still think Led Zeppelin is real! You prolly still believe in Greg Allman!"

I cried and cried.... :cry:


You have saint nicholas? I thought only the Netherlands and Belgium knew him and celebrated his birthday!

I'm not religious but I have to say, have faith!
some of them were real, and some of them even meant to do good!
By the way, I'm 15, and I usually listen to "old" music, like Jimi Hendrix, Beatles, the Stones and stuff like that, and I know that my friends do too!

Yeah, but when I found out that Santa Claus was really a Jolly old "Elf" and not the Jolly Fat Man that Norman Rockwell depicted, I switched to Saint Nicholas. I almost went with Father Christmas, but he had some club initiations and monthly Dues.

I'm 36 and I was listening to all that at 15 as well. It was Old then too. If I was Hip and New I would have been listening to Echo and the Bunny Men, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Wham, Erasure, and Spandua Ballet. :oops: No Way Man!!

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FirstMeasure wrote:
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I don't believe in the Old Bands anymore. I remeber the day after I found out the awful truth about Saint Nicholas, my Big Brother said to me,"You're so dumb you still think Led Zeppelin is real! You prolly still believe in Greg Allman!"

I cried and cried.... :cry:


You have saint nicholas? I thought only the Netherlands and Belgium knew him and celebrated his birthday!

I'm not religious but I have to say, have faith!
some of them were real, and some of them even meant to do good!
By the way, I'm 15, and I usually listen to "old" music, like Jimi Hendrix, Beatles, the Stones and stuff like that, and I know that my friends do too!

Yeah, but when I found out that Santa Claus was really a Jolly old "Elf" and not the Jolly Fat Man that Norman Rockwell depicted, I switched to Saint Nicholas. I almost went with Father Christmas, but he had some club initiations and monthly Dues.

I'm 36 and I was listening to all that at 15 as well. It was Old then too. If I was Hip and New I would have been listening to Echo and the Bunny Men, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Wham, Erasure, and Spandua Ballet. :oops: No Way Man!!


haha yeah I listen to old music, but I also believe in new music.
I also like radiohead, red hot chili peppers, gorillaz and everything in between.
How could I believe in myself as a musician when I only like old music?
It's important to at least know about most kinds of music.


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The Jerm wrote:
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I don't believe in the Old Bands anymore. I remeber the day after I found out the awful truth about Saint Nicholas, my Big Brother said to me,"You're so dumb you still think Led Zeppelin is real! You prolly still believe in Greg Allman!"

I cried and cried.... :cry:


You have saint nicholas? I thought only the Netherlands and Belgium knew him and celebrated his birthday!

I'm not religious but I have to say, have faith!
some of them were real, and some of them even meant to do good!
By the way, I'm 15, and I usually listen to "old" music, like Jimi Hendrix, Beatles, the Stones and stuff like that, and I know that my friends do too!

Yeah, but when I found out that Santa Claus was really a Jolly old "Elf" and not the Jolly Fat Man that Norman Rockwell depicted, I switched to Saint Nicholas. I almost went with Father Christmas, but he had some club initiations and monthly Dues.

I'm 36 and I was listening to all that at 15 as well. It was Old then too. If I was Hip and New I would have been listening to Echo and the Bunny Men, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Wham, Erasure, and Spandua Ballet. :oops: No Way Man!!


haha yeah I listen to old music, but I also believe in new music.
I also like radiohead, red hot chili peppers, gorillaz and everything in between.
How could I believe in myself as a musician when I only like old music?
It's important to at least know about most kinds of music.

Oh yea, I listened to New music too. I really like Power Station, Duran Duran, and ABC. But mostly I was into Great White, Whitesnake, Iron Maiden, Anthrax, and Metallica. But I really liked the Classics. I liked Writing Power Station, Iron MAiden, ZZ Top, SRV, Cream, Hendrix, and Leon Russell on my Folders then listen to my freinds say, "They're cool, They Suck, They're old, and Who's That?"

I've always kept up with music and liked what was good, Blues Traveler, Natalie Merchant, Foo Fighters, Evanescence, and whatecer catches my ear. But I still Love the classics.

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I dunno, I think that the poll here is a non-issue. I don't really care either way.

As far as new music VS old music, it's hard to find anything by a new band that I find memorable, and I can't remember the last time I heard a song by any band I hadn't heard of before, that made me WANT to spend time looking for and buying their music. Having the worst band name in the world (and there seem to be a few out there in competition for it lately) isn't going to make me a motivated listener, either.

As far as 'old' (I prefer 'classic') groups go, I enjoy them but I'm not rabid about them, and I only go looking for their music when I'm in the mood. I've got a decent CD/MP3 library, but I probably only listen to 10% of what I've got on hand more than once. Maybe I'm getting old, but I'm getting to the point of just doing random searches on the radio when I'm driving, and ONLY when I'm driving, otherwise I'm pretty much music free. Perhaps I should subscribe to Satellite radio.


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I've mentioned music going all the way back to the 1920s in this forum with even a reference or two going back much further. Equally, I've read any number of posts here from others recognizing artists and groups from the 50s right up to now.

Obviously, there's a bias toward rock, blues and some country because that's what guitars and Fender are associated with. And sure, probably a bias toward the absolute greats from the past 40 years as opposed to every group any of us can remember. But that's all common sense -- I think posters in general here have the greatest respect for all forms of music (with the possible exception of rap).

I see no real bias other than a natural one, considering that this is a Fender guitar forum.


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Old music is not dead. It is classic. I love the old stuff. SOme of the bands I talk about here are the old stuff. Rush is 30+ years. The Byrds are even older. Black Sabbath is 40+ years old. Even Metallica is 20 some years old.

The Grateful Dead is great music. I loved them when I was a teenager, but they were still considered a "old" band then. I am sorry to say that some, and I mean some, of the people on this site are not old enough to know these bands or had parents that introduced them to it. If it wasn't for my mom I would never know who Chuck Berry, Johny Cash, or even Nat King Cole were.

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I dunno, I think that the poll here is a non-issue. I don't really care either way.

As far as new music VS old music, it's hard to find anything by a new band that I find memorable, and I can't remember the last time I heard a song by any band I hadn't heard of before, that made me WANT to spend time looking for and buying their music. Having the worst band name in the world (and there seem to be a few out there in competition for it lately) isn't going to make me a motivated listener, either.

As far as 'old' (I prefer 'classic') groups go, I enjoy them but I'm not rabid about them, and I only go looking for their music when I'm in the mood. I've got a decent CD/MP3 library, but I probably only listen to 10% of what I've got on hand more than once. Maybe I'm getting old, but I'm getting to the point of just doing random searches on the radio when I'm driving, and ONLY when I'm driving, otherwise I'm pretty much music free. Perhaps I should subscribe to Satellite radio.
Everyone should get satellite. Commercial radio is horrible and dying

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Old music is not dead. It is classic. I love the old stuff. SOme of the bands I talk about here are the old stuff. Rush is 30+ years. The Byrds are even older. Black Sabbath is 40+ years old. Even Metallica is 20 some years old.

The Grateful Dead is great music. I loved them when I was a teenager, but they were still considered a "old" band then. I am sorry to say that some, and I mean some, of the people on this site are not old enough to know these bands or had parents that introduced them to it. If it wasn't for my mom I would never know who Chuck Berry, Johny Cash, or even Nat King Cole were.



this is exactly the way i feel. you got it totally right. i listen to almost any band you can name i have a huge repitiore (no clue how to spell that) and enjoy alot of things :D :P :wink: 8) :) :o :mrgreen:

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You say "good old bands" and then throw Jerry Garcia and the Dead in the mix?! The Grateful Dead a great band? No way. A bunch of spaced out rambling hippies spewing bad drug poetry, pseudo philosophy and tripe YES absolutely.

Okay I'm off my rant.

Lots of us like, respect, and admire the pioneers of rock n roll and the great artists of the past. But how many times can you talk about how influential The Doors, Joplin, Clapton, Hendrix, The Who etc etc are/were.

It's the same old comments on the same old subject. Yes the old acts were great but the new acts is where the future of rock n roll lies.

We as musicians (and music lovers) need to keep one eye/ear on the past and the other eye/ear on the future. Constantly push the envelope, create new music by re-inventing the old, don't stop growing musically or Rock will stagnate and become irrelevant.

The Rock n Roll Army must continue to progress or the World will fall to the evil hordes of the Hip Hop Nation.

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You say "good old bands" and then throw Jerry Garcia and the Dead in the mix?! The Grateful Dead a great band? No way. A bunch of spaced out rambling hippies spewing bad drug poetry, pseudo philosophy and tripe YES absolutely.


HA! I never liked them either. I can respect "some" of the guitar playing, but it's just a big jam that any pro-level guitar player can do - really. Just boring rambling to me.

I agree about knowing and respecting the past, and almost not living in it either. Don't like any new music? Great. Don't whine about it, make something better. Write something significant and get it to the masses so we can all hear it.

Music SHOULD change and evolve. Otherwise there would be no blues, no jazz, no rock, nothing except some cavemen keeping a beat on a deerskin by the fire.

How many times have you heard a band you like, then hear 10 albums that all sound exactly the same, and think "boy, they should do something new already". To me, it's like ACDC. I love them, always have. But I can't sit and listen to 100 ACDC songs that all sound like Back in Black.

I say, bring on MORE new music. If I don't like it, and the kids do, great! It's significant to someone, and that's the point of music. That's why I listen to satellite. I'll hear a lot of stuff I like, but isn't in the same 20-song rotation of commercial radio.


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You don't have to like 'em, and I've never been one to try and force Dry Wine on a Sloe Gin drinker, but you have to admit the Grateful Dead were a Great Band. They were the only 60's act that was filling Stadiums all through the 70's 80's and 90's. They fueled the Jamm Band explosion of the late 90's, and spawned countless copy cats and imitators.

Here's part of their Legacy
http://www.jambands.com/

Personaly, I like their music, But Little Feat blows them out of the water. Little Feat is Absolutly the best Jam Band (Acid Rock) on the face of the planet. But they don't come close to the Dead's legacy.

http://www.littlefeat.net/index.php?page=welcome

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i've always been more of a prog-rock fan... or art-rock as some might call it. the only dead song i ever learned was "friend of the devil". i only saw the band once, and i'll have to admit - i was bored stiff.
one musician i always admired was david bowie, because he was never afraid to do something different... never knew what to expect. and with the "underground" musicians that graced his albums, like fripp, eno, belew, aynsley dunbar,... the list goes on.
caught his reality tour a couple of years back... all new musicians, a bunch of new stuff, some old favorites, and some old obscure melodies that would bug most people... never a dull moment!
... now that's art that keeps moving forward.

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