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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:34 pm
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What was the youtube link for that kid's story?

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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:00 am
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Sharon Slickis wrote:
What was the youtube link for that kid's story?

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From the first post:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfjTrrBE_eI

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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:05 am
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He got the can't play the blues blues.

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ian sheridan wrote:
He got the can't play the blues blues.


There are several young players of considerable talent out there, such as the young man from Boston who tours with his dad and has been on stage with Buddy Guy. I am sure there are venue opportunities out there which do not violate state laws regarding minors and the serving of alcohol.

With respect to the mental defective who wrote that note, well, that's the kind of vermin we unfortunately find hiding under the doormat at the entrance to our society.

If possible, I would do my level best to get my family out of that community and into an environment which would nurture his talent. Parents of child athletes do so. Why should it not be so, as well, for this kind of gift.

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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:57 am
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Mmmm....I want to offer something here but I can't, I don't know US laws.
From what you guys have said, this seems like an unusual situation and I'm with you all on this. This young guy has got to continue playing, if not there then somewhere else. ( It will throw a wobbler at his opponents ) and not let them win.
I started young with my group, we were all the about the same age and when we were about 14 years old, we got stopped once, when playing in a bar. The cops moved in and said, we were too young to be in there, a long argument ensued and well, I can't remember now how that one panned out.It only happened once, as far as I can recall.
Anyway we carried on, we kept going and look where I am today :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Well let's step back from the emotional response here for a minute.

No one said that he can't play in his home.
No one said that he can't record in a studio.
No one said that he can't post himself all over YouTube.
No one said that he can't get signed, recorded, and exploited by a record company.

He just can't play in night clubs/bars/roadhouses
(Regardless of his parent's presence, those are not appropriate places for 8 year olds (even prodigys) to be hanging out.)

So Mom and Dad can't get paid any longer (boo friggin hoo). Yeah, sure I believe it's all going to little T-man's college fund. What with practicing/playing as much as he does, he'll probably flunk out of school well before college. Or give it up for life as a performing musician. College fund my "butt".

And yeah it sucks that there were threats made against his booking agent (who was also getting paid), but lets keep it in perspective. The kid can continue playing his little heart out. He can even perform in the park and at street fairs etc (to get around that pesky law) if his parent's want to continue exploiting their son and his talent.

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ian sheridan wrote:
He got the can't play the blues blues.


There are several young players of considerable talent out there, such as the young man from Boston who tours with his dad and has been on stage with Buddy Guy. quote]

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mthorn00 wrote:
Well let's step back from the emotional response here for a minute.

No one said that he can't play in his home.
No one said that he can't record in a studio.
No one said that he can't post himself all over YouTube.
No one said that he can't get signed, recorded, and exploited by a record company.

He just can't play in night clubs/bars/roadhouses
(Regardless of his parent's presence, those are not appropriate places for 8 year olds (even prodigys) to be hanging out.)

So Mom and Dad can't get paid any longer (boo friggin hoo). Yeah, sure I believe it's all going to little T-man's college fund. What with practicing/playing as much as he does, he'll probably flunk out of school well before college. Or give it up for life as a performing musician. College fund my "butt".

And yeah it sucks that there were threats made against his booking agent (who was also getting paid), but lets keep it in perspective. The kid can continue playing his little heart out. He can even perform in the park and at street fairs etc (to get around that pesky law) if his parent's want to continue exploiting their son and his talent.

So you're saying that You and the State of Wisconsin know what's best for these silly people's Son. You even seem to have uncovered the parents deep seeded plot to pocket his college fund. They struck me as very caring and resposible parents because they regognized his abilities and desires, and nurture them while keeping him clothed, fed and educated. How did you arrive at your opinion of them, misanthropy?

And just when did letting a child live his or her dream, and guarentee them a college education, become exploitation.

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As much as I hate to admit it - because it spoils some of my anti-authoritarian image- I have to agree with mthorn.

A bar is no place for an 8 year old, even with his parents. Lord knows he doesn't need to run into me in there....(shudder)

And that is the only restriction being placed on this young man. There are beaucoup other places he can play and display/develop his talent.

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According to the story, he can be in the bar as long as he's accompanied by a parent, he just can't play in the bars.

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mthorn00, I was thinking the same thing.

No I don't think the parents are truly just trying to profit off of their kid. However, basing their claim that what's being done is a threat against his freedom of expression is a bit over the top. This kid could probably play a gig at his school for free every week at lunchtime if he wants an audience.

If you want to complain about the state's definition of what's safe for him, then go for it, but this kid's creativity is not being suppressed. I couldn't play in a bar with my band when I was 16... and frankly, that's just life.


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OK, so kill me for this opinion, but I have seen this kid on TV WAY too much on local stations accross the country and he really isn't that good. If you hear him play for more than two minutes you will realize he just plays the same licks over and over and makes faces.
His dad is obviously a stage dad who is trying to get him noticed.
Noone is stopping him from playing. He just can't play in a bar and his dad can't make money off him.
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if his dad didn't write that letter. I get this real creapy vibe from him for some reason.

I may be totally wrong here, but I have seen little kids who can blow the doors off this kid and don't see them hyped so damn much.


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Ah so you're saying this could all be a PR stunt from cute parents ?
Interesting.


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When I was 8 years old it transpired that I had the incredible ability to urinate as high as an eight foot ceiling. It was a gift. Much like the 8 year old guitarist, I was banned from performing my special talent in bars and clubs. I was crushed. I felt devistated that I couldn't share my gift with the world. Sadly, I haven't widdled since that day.

A lesson there for everyone.

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FirstMeasure wrote:
So you're saying that You and the State of Wisconsin know what's best for these silly people's Son. You even seem to have uncovered the parents deep seeded plot to pocket his college fund. They struck me as very caring and resposible parents because they regognized his abilities and desires, and nurture them while keeping him clothed, fed and educated. How did you arrive at your opinion of them, misanthropy?

And just when did letting a child live his or her dream, and guarentee them a college education, become exploitation.


:arrow: I know that hanging out in bars late at night is not appropriate for an 8 year old regardless of parental consent or presence. Kids do a lot of growing and their brains develop during REM sleep, the kid needs to be in bed.
:arrow: practicing 2-3 hours a day and gigging at night (with 2 bands) will definately have a negative impact on the childs academic performance. Especially once he is in middle and high school.
:arrow: The parents lament that they have no money to pay for a lawyer to challenge the law and yet there are some fairly high dollar guitars proudly displayed for the cameras. If they care soooo much, sell a few to cover the lawyers fees. (oh, what's that...you don't care THAT much okay)
:arrow: The kids dream of playing is NOT being stifled. He just can't play in bars (and his parents can't get paid).
:arrow: Little T-Man can perform at the park, perform at the street fair, he can perform in the front yard, he can perform in the school auditorium. The kid is still able to live "his dream" of playing and performing.
:arrow: Post his little butt all over YouTube for exposure. I-Tunes will even let you sell your original music through them.

The parents issue is . . . they aren't getting paid any more.

Plus I hate to say it but the kid isn't really all that "gifted". Prodigy is a pretty strong word to be throwing around. He's good for an 8 year old, but after practicing 2-3 hours a day for 3 years, he'd better be. I've only seen the brief clip on the news blurb but repetitive licks and grimacing is ok but not a prodigy.

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