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Post subject: what do you think of this idea to stop music pirating?
Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:04 pm
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what do you think of this idea to stop music pirating?...

have a thing like itunes with crap loads of music on it but instead of paying for each song or cd. have a monthly subscription fee like $20/mo or something for access to everything. and $20/mo would probably be more than what alot of people would spend on cds anyway. so people will obviously get crap loads of cds but the place would still be getting more money than they would useually do. music enthusiests would probably go for that than torrents or something cus it'd be official, supporting the artists and high quality.

might not work but just a thought i had.
what do you guys think?

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The kids in South Park already tried dude :lol:


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ah crap. what happened?

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Somethings got to be done thats for sure. The industry has been rotten since the 50's. I think the current high levels of piracy may actualy do more to change the music industry then anything else. Stop the faceless accountants at sony warner and emi choosing what is pushed at us and make exposure easier for genuine bands who do it out of love.

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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:31 pm
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definatly i agree. also these days you can get away without the beurocracy record labels and do it all ur self on a computer. but the labels make it easyer and would probably do a better job but for like 95% of the profit. the internet and piracy make it waaaay easyer for underground bands to get big without the millions spent of promoting and crap also underground bands get big cus they are acturly good. unlike the crapest dude in existence t-pain is popular cus the label put like trillions of $ looping it on tv (in new zealand anyway)
but i'm sure everyone knows and agrees that the music industy is messed up at the moment.
when are the morons going to realize that hip hop is crap!

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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:38 pm
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Thats a jukebox Account with MP3 to go just no Cd burning but then again you just plug your Mp3 into the head unit in your car :shock:

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a jukebox account? that acturly exists?
so you can just sign up and listen to everything?
how does it work?

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I'd say just get rid of Limewire and other similiar programs.

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Isn't that what Napster turned into?

So I get to pay some monthly fee for the rest of my life to listen to my music.? Sorry ... pass.

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I get a daily music biz newsletter and I've read that these subscription sites just don't seem to do well. People tend to like to cherry pick tunes rather than buy whole albums.

No one has a solution to piracy. I'm not sure even an apocolytic computer viris that attacked Limewire, BitTorrent and the like would make much of a dent in it. It seems when they shut down one of the big sites like the old Napster, a new one pops up to take its place.


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Yahoo jukebox accounts have all been move to Rhapsody accounts 12.00 a month all the music you want and upgrade to a To Go account you get all the Mp3 downloads you want. Pick and choice as you want. Yahoo users got to renew at the Yahoo cost of 79.00 a year :shock:

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nikininja wrote:
Somethings got to be done thats for sure. The industry has been rotten since the 50's. I think the current high levels of piracy may actualy do more to change the music industry then anything else. Stop the faceless accountants at sony warner and emi choosing what is pushed at us and make exposure easier for genuine bands who do it out of love.


Ah! thats a sweet dream man......a sweet dream.

Actually, the apathy from all those guys nearly lost the UK and US music industry back in the eighties. It took a lot of effort and arse kicking from a lot of concerned people and established musicians, to rescue it.
It survived into the nineties and like it or hate it, Brit Pop did a lot to rescue the situation, financially, in the UK.


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I quite like the idea of that but maybe paying half the price per song/album: which lets admit is more than nothing if they choose lime wire, ect.

or a site where you can download songs to your computer, laptop or phone or buy them for like 2 pence (£0.02 [I don't know how much that'd be in $) and pay another 2P every other time you listen to that song but it can only be accessed by going onto that website, which also you can turn your account into an internet radio*?

*: I know there are gadgets out now where you can listen to internet radio anywhere in the world


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nikininja wrote:
Somethings got to be done thats for sure. The industry has been rotten since the 50's. I think the current high levels of piracy may actualy do more to change the music industry then anything else. Stop the faceless accountants at sony warner and emi choosing what is pushed at us and make exposure easier for genuine bands who do it out of love.


Ah! thats a sweet dream man......a sweet dream.

Actually, the apathy from all those guys nearly lost the UK and US music industry back in the eighties. It took a lot of effort and arse kicking from a lot of concerned people and established musicians, to rescue it.
It survived into the nineties and like it or hate it, Brit Pop did a lot to rescue the situation, financially, in the UK.


Record labels in the '80s and into the '90s also reaped the benefit of listeners replacing millions of vinyl and tape recordings with new technology CDs. For ten years record sales were artificially bloated by this. In the U.S., the largest selling album of all time is EAGLES/THEIR GREATEST HITS 1971 - 1975. Now the Eagles are a good band and they turned out some good music, but this title has gone platinum 29 times according to the RIAA who keeps track of such things. 29 times !!! It came out on vinyl, 8-track, and cassette before being offered as a CD. I suspect it sold so well because people bought multiple copies as the technology improved. I bought it twice myself (8-track then CD) and I'm just a casual fan of the Eagles. The bottom began to fall out when the replacement boom ended and the record labels had to create acts that could sell in high volumes to keep the machine fed . . . like Britney Spears.

I don't want to say the majors are dead -- they have been resilient -- but as I look into the future I don't see anything there to save them this time.


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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:58 pm
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All in all, all i see is good reasons for taking money out of music. Stupid as it sounds, its about the only way to stop piracy and keep a decent standard of music being publicized.

On a side note, its either sweden or switzerland that has no piracy laws. Its where all the torrent sites have their physical address, to stop em being prosecuted. On the subject of computer virus's, i believe the corporate sector has created far more viruses than internet terrorists.

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