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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:08 am
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gomania16 wrote:
I hate to contradict people but a store that sells guitars does not have to employ guitar experienced people. Someone said that it is absurd to not have guitar players sell the guitars and I think that statement is ridiculous. I don't need a Nascar driver to sell me a car either... . I find that most salespersons just blow smoke on the sale and then I can't make a decision. However I am new to the game. Newcomers should just get starter packs and more experienced people should do research into their purchase.


...If you are going to race the car, it might not not be a bad idea....

Though would you ask a driver without a license or any driving experience for help or even regard any information in relation to a vehicle? Now doesn't that sound really ridiculous. I race bicycles, I wouldn't want advice on components who hasn't had any experience in bicycle racing.

Also, If you sense somebody is giving you a sales jingle, move-on. A good consumer is responsible for some research, but some good sound help doesn't hurt. [/i]


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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:56 am
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Hmmm.....respectfully disagree about the sales people who don't know about/playing guitars. Sales people need to know about the product they are selling, if not, the store runs the risk of establishing a bad reputation. I saw that a lot in stores that used to sell firearms, i.e., Wal-Mart, KMart, Sears, etc. Sales people lying to the customer just to make a sale. Guitar Center is one thing, a dedicated music store, but for Best Buy to start selling products way out of their line of expertise is ludicrous at best. I have been to our local Best Buy and basically bypass the music section and consider it pretty much of a joke.


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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:02 am
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The Best Buy here must have taken a different tact when Hiring salespeople. The two salespeople here have experience and are very knowledgeable about the products they are selling. Can they set up a guitar? Doubtful but then again that is not thier job. Can they tell all about a particultar instrument and demo it yes. The general manager of the store told me that he went out of his way to get qualified people to work that department that is why there is only two so far.

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cvilleira wrote:
Fender dealer prices if a dealer wants to sell for more they can but they cant sell below the dealer MAP price.


They could when I worked at Guitar Center back in the 80's! (I doubt it's changed much)

MAP = Minimum Advertised Price
That means an item cannot be advertised lower, a dealer can sell it for whatever they want. Fender has already been paid or the guitar/amp/whatever wouldn't be in the store. Let stuff sit on the floor for a bit and prices will shift.

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mthorn00 wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
Fender dealer prices if a dealer wants to sell for more they can but they cant sell below the dealer MAP price.


They could when I worked at Guitar Center back in the 80's! (I doubt it's changed much)

MAP = Minimum Advertised Price
That means an item cannot be advertised lower, a dealer can sell it for whatever they want. Fender has already been paid or the guitar/amp/whatever wouldn't be in the store. Let stuff sit on the floor for a bit and prices will shift.

I am having a hard time splaning this. There is a bottom selling price what it is who no's. I beleive there are minimum selling and advertising. When I ran a Electrical supply company many years ago we sold Cutler Hammer and Square D we had MAP pricing the lowest price we were alowed to advertise. But there was another price number the public is not made aware and of and that was the the price we paid and it is the same price all dealers paid our guys could deal down to that second price and no lower. They tried not bacause it cut the profits they were not allowed to under sell.
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The pricing of some products that you sell will be strictly controlled by the manufacturer. This is done by setting what is called a Minimum Advertised Price, or MAP. The manufacturer of the product is the one that sets MAP pricing. This pricing structure is then enforced by the distributors of said product.

For example, you want to sell this really cool piece of electronic equipment, but before you can align yourself with a distributor for such an item, you are required to sign an agreement that basically states that you agree to sell it for no less than $179.99. This particular item retails for $199.99, so you are able to offer it for sale at a $20.00 discount.

By signing this agreement, the manufacturer or distributor will allow you to sell the item. If you put the item up for sale at a price less than the MAP of $179.99, you run the risk of jeopardizing your relationship with said manufacturer or distributor and they quite possibly may not allow you to continue selling the item, as you have violated the Minimum Advertised Price agreement.

If you are able to sell your items at MAP on eBay, you will be guaranteed a certain profit margin. However, everyone else selling this same product has to sell at the MAP price as well. Otherwise, they will be undercutting you. Not to mention, they will be in violation of the MAP. (You will find a lot of sellers violating the MAP of a product because competition is steep and they want to move their product. Sometimes, the only way to move the product is to lower the price.)

Why would a manufacturer institute a Minimum Advertised Price? They do this for several reasons:

They want to ensure that their product maintains a certain level of exclusivity and doesn’t become known as a cheap product.
They want to protect their dealers and make sure that everyone makes money.
They want to protect their bricks and mortar stores from “unfair” online competition

The Bottom line to this is just because a Dealer has bought and paid for a item does not mean they can sell it for what ever they want. THAT IS IF THEY WANT TO STAY A DEALER.

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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:56 am
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Hello Cilleria,

No need to shout.
Have you ever owned a retail store?
I thought not.

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Mr Bill wrote:
Hello Cilleria,

No need to shout.
Have you ever owned a retail store?
I thought not.

cheers

All is good Bill me no shout.
And yes I did not own a retail store but I was Operations Manager for a Interstate Electric Branch for over ten years, it was not to big about 50 Employees at my branch 17 branches in all left when company was sold and became Store Manager of a local Home Depot for 3 years after that and I was done. Been with Johns Hopkins for last 12 years but curently on Med leave.

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Hello Cvilleira,

Peace. :D

Cheers.


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