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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:52 am
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I'm currently reading the hendrix biography by sharon lawrence. In the book it says hendrix felt terrible after the incident, and that clapton had been a hero of his for some time previous. I also think there is a bit more to it than is written anywhere. Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker didnt want to know about jamming with Hendrix. Clapton talked em into it. Maybe Claptons bravado at the time because of his ability peeved jimi, maybe jack and ginger upset him. Who knows? One thing is certain the 2 players went on to develop a good friendship. Jimi's first idea for the electric sky church band was just a load of musicians in a massive house near electric lady studio's, just jamming all day. Clapton was top of his list on people to have, above john mclaughlin, jeff beck, steve winwood, roger mayer(for input on sounds) or anyone else.

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Clapton's version of "Ain't Gonna Give Up On Love" during the SRV Tribute Concert won me over to loving Clapton for life.


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I'm not much of a fan of EC, but his playing is divine. He didnt attain the status of THE GUITAR GOD for nothing. The majority of the population of the western world as well as its musicians cant be wrong.

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Strat God wrote:
Similar to the Pete Townsend / Clapton story:
After seeing Jimi play in a London Pub one night Pete Townsend called up Eric and asked him to meet at the movies. They met, sat through the movie without talking and at the end when the lights came up Pete turned to Eric and said 'I've just seen a guy who is going to put us out of business'. 8)


I think Pete tells that story the other way around as to who phoned who and so forth: but it amounts to the same thing. Townshend also has a lot of other good stories about Hendrix, which he tells to camera in the film "Jimi Hendrix - a Film About Jimi Hendrix" (helpful title). For example, prior to going on at Monterey. Clapton has nice things to say in that movie, too.

Gotta remember, much of this stuff is just the kind of extavagant compliments good players like to pay one another. There's other stories of Chaz Chandler trying to persuade Hendrix to come to England and Jimi expressing reluctance given the great players they already had there - namely, Clapton, Beck, Townshend and such - "why would they want me?" But it is hard to imagine he was seriously daunted...

And you'll have seen Hendrix legendary appearance on The Lulu Show. Was he cutting Clapton or complimenting him?

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What Clapton should have done is set his own guitar on fire....then run up and start beating Jimi with it.....

Kidding of course..but I am surprised that rumor is not going around as well. Seems too many sides to this story. All that probably happened is Hendrix shocked some people because he was so over the top for that time and everyone was blown away.

Hendrix had a bigger issue down the road when playing shows. People would be dissapointed if he didn't burn his ax...This bothered Hendrix which you can see him say this himself live on recorded interviews.

So pretty much all the show off stuff did come back to bite him...but in the long run his music lives on and many many people of all ages get something from it..and Clapton as well..he's my parents favorite and both my parents swear that Clapton is the best live show they have ever seen..and my dad did see Hendrix at Monterey.

All about personal taste.

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Stevie Ray did something mighty similar. There's a story that Clapton told in a Guitar World issue where he talks about being on the same bill of Stevie's last two shows, and he tells about how he watched Stevie play his set before Clapton went on. Clapton says that he had to leave, because he felt like he couldn't go on afterwards, and that he knew that Stevie was going to just keep getting better and better. :shock: You pretty much know how the rest of the story goes.

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Stevie Ray did something mighty similar. There's a story that Clapton told in a Guitar World issue where he talks about being on the same bill of Stevie's last two shows, and he tells about how he watched Stevie play his set before Clapton went on. Clapton says that he had to leave, because he felt like he couldn't go on afterwards, and that he knew that Stevie was going to just keep getting better and better. :shock: You pretty much know how the rest of the story goes.


Yep. And I doubt there is or was much dispute over who the "better" guitar player was. But either way Clapton has nothing to be ashamed of..anyone of any playing level would give a leg to have even close to the success as Clapton.

And I strongly believe any comments ever made by Clapton regarding Hendrix or SRV was intended to be complimentary, unless he was wasted at the time...lol

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EC is not a crappy Blues player. BB King, one of the undisputed kings of the Blues, describes EC as one of the best Blues players in the world. He also said that when playing the blues with EC, he played chords to back him. That's a huge compliment and show of respect from BB, who usually plays lead exclusively. To hear EC play the Blues very well, check out the Mayall "Beano" album, "From the Cradle" and "Riding With The King." Compare SRV or Buddy Guy and you'll see Clapton has a correct blues style and he's a virtuoso.

No offense to Hendrix, who was a gifted composer, but as a blues artist Hendrix is not comparable to BB King and EC. One of Hendrix's most famous solos is one note, played for several measures. Still, the song is very good and Hendrix had a great, unique style and was an excellent composer/arranger. Each of these musicians, is the best at being what he is.

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to quote mick taylor
'hendrix should stop mucking about and just stick to what he's good at, playing blues'.

To say that clapton is better at blues than hendrix isnt true. At the time he wasnt, he wasnt even the best blues player out of england. Now though he has far surpassed his peers dead or alive. dont forget in the late 60's cream released some horrible schmaltzy hippy garbage, most notably 'disreali gears'. Hendrix whilst he had moments of stupid hippy junk (laughing sams dice/dolly dagger/purple haze to name 3) he never released a album of it, they were always interspersed between some classic songs. To really hear hendrix play blues source the video of him playing 'hear my train coming' on a zematis 12 string. Ive never heard tone like it, or even midnight lightning, or the bbc versions of catfish blues and rolling and tumbling.
Sure clapton is way ahead of him now, but its taken him 30 odd years to do it.

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It's not a competition. SRV is another great Blues man with a unique style, which doesn't include playing barr chords from what I've found. That's how unique it is. A guitar is a world and there's no end to the way to play it. Re Clapton at the time of Hendrix - with the Blues Breakers, Clapton took a great leap forward and became a very accomplished Blues guitar player. On the Beano album, Clapton has his licks and his bravado and he's playing great. That was before Hendrix came to England. Hendrix was an amazing composer/arranger who wrote and performed classic songs. What did the great blues artists who were performing in the 60s think about Hendrix as a player compared to as a composer/arranger? Check out what Albert King says on the link in the earlier post. The difference between Clapton, Hendrix, SRV is substantial. Hendrix, playing the same note for several measures, could sound great. Hendrix also could get very aggressive and play rapidly, but ironically his most lasting stuff is where he is more subdued. A Blues song sings - like a BB King solo - and Hendrix does that on several of his brilliant songs like "Little Wing" and "The Wind Cried Mary" and "The Watchtower." Keep in mind the term "slowhand" for Clapton was meant ironically because he was the fastest and cleanest Blues guitar player in England, and his guitar sang the Blues. Hendrix was as fast, but not nearly as clean nor as consistent in performing. On the other hand, Hendrix was writing everything and generating the solos as part of the song and producing everything had Hendrix is thus inescapably a phenomenal creative genius who wrote and produced and performed classic songs. Clapton contemporaneously with Hendrix did not sing much at all and did not write most of the songs even with Cream, although he did do the excellent Crossroads Blues rework from the Robert Johnson original, and co-wrote Badge with George Harrison. Clapton then exploded with the composed, produced and performed Derek and the Dominos with Duane Allman inspiring him to greater and greater heights. Since coming back from heroin in the early 70s, Clapton has continued to develop as a composer and musician, and I'm glad you see that. A lot of the time, people disrespect Clapton based on a couple of middling Phil Collins albums from the 80s, but Clapton keeps going and stays home with the Blues and that's one reason that I respect him a lot. Fortunately, he lived and I hope he will continue to do his thing until the day he dies.

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Hendrix was not trying to be a blues player (well Red House is pretty much blues as you get..but he added flavor for sure). His influences of course as with ALL the rock players at the time was blues based..but Hendrix was about experimentation and taking "blues" to another level..which he did exceedlingly well..no one has since.

But it's tough to say who is actually a better guitar player per say..as far as blues I think SRV has it down better then any of em..but he didn't really innovate a "style"...that is going back to Muddy, Dixon and the like. They deserve the credit for inventing something...but who am I or anyone else to say who is "better"..I don't consider music a competiton (although yes it is a competitve industry). But ANYONE who makes it in music is apparently "good enough".

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