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Post subject: Rock and roll crosses?
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:18 am
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I notice in photos that a lot of rock musicians are wearing large-ish Christian-style crosses. Is that a Christian symbol of the crucifix, or is there some other symbology involved?


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If this is what you're talking about:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Cross

then I would say it's meant to be religious, but as you can see it is far from the heart of Christianity...

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The Teutonic Knights, one of the original post-First Crusade military-religious Orders used a black Cross on a white field. It was originally square-ended and became splayed much later, likely after the fall of the Holy Land about 1291.

Of the other original post-First Crusade Orders; the Hospitalers of St. John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes and of Malta wear the white Cross on red field, the Templars used red on white and the leper Knights of St. Lazarus are green on white.

How the Splayed Cross became cool for surfers, bikers and rockers is an interesting journey into history meeting pop culture.


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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:31 am
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What I'm seeing are not Maltese in design. They are Christian in design. There is even one frequently shown on one of the pictures that accompany this website. It's a black and white picture of a lean, 50-ish guitarist facing right. The picture appears on the left side of the screen.


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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:40 am
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I think I know which one you mean. It's the background with the rolling stones. I think that is just supposed to be cool.

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I can't speak for the other musicians, but I wear mine because I am Christian and am proud to display it. Just picked up a really cool "Sacred Heart" guitar strap too.
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ClearwaterZiggy wrote:
I can't speak for the other musicians, but I wear mine because I am Christian and am proud to display it. Just picked up a really cool "Sacred Heart" guitar strap too.
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Cool strap and I'm a Christian too my brother!!


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ClearwaterZiggy wrote:
I can't speak for the other musicians, but I wear mine because I am Christian and am proud to display it. Just picked up a really cool "Sacred Heart" guitar strap too.
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Nice strap. I didn't mean to say that eveyone does it to look cool, just that I'm not sure the Rolling Stones have spent their lives on the narrow path. :)

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fhopkins wrote:
ClearwaterZiggy wrote:
I can't speak for the other musicians, but I wear mine because I am Christian and am proud to display it. Just picked up a really cool "Sacred Heart" guitar strap too.
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Cool strap and I'm a Christian too my brother!!


Well that would be at least three of us then! :)

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So, kind of like the one on the Ozzy album cover??

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I think it's just the latest symbolic fad. When I was in high school, all the groups were into pentagrams and satanic imagery. Look at late-70s/early-80s rock albums by Rush, Kiss, Black Sabbath, Blue Oyster Cult, Motorhead, et al. Now it's crosses. I wouldn't assign any deep meaning to it. :roll:


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bmcmillin wrote:
fhopkins wrote:
ClearwaterZiggy wrote:
I can't speak for the other musicians, but I wear mine because I am Christian and am proud to display it. Just picked up a really cool "Sacred Heart" guitar strap too.
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Cool strap and I'm a Christian too my brother!!


Well that would be at least three of us then! :)


+1 there's 4...


I would agree that they're just used because people think they are cool...no segnifigant(sp?) vallue to most of them.

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Thanks. I think that answers my question. I wondered whether there was a Chrisitian movement in rock-dom. It would make a lot of sense now that so many of the old rockers are at the age where religion and the hereafter become a daily consideration.


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I don't remember which comedian said this... but it just seemed appropriate. LoL
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I was thinking about how people seem to read the Bible a whole lot more as they get older. Then, it dawned on me, they were cramming for their finals.

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I'm not religious, but I will say that The Bible is one of the most important books you can read, and the earlier in life, the better. Not just a few chapters and verses, but the whole thing from beginning to end. Contemplatively. It's the story of the civilization of man. Every kind of problem that a person or society can possibly endure is covered in it, and there's a lot of great learning about our "human condition". Read both testaments.

Just because you read the bible for it's great value doesn't make you a bible thumping fanatic.

It's one of the few books I always keep at my bedside and read frequently.

The painful irony of it is that I am in a religious family, most members of which seldom miss going to church. None of them know anything about the bible except what they've been taught. Any of it that they do read is outside the context of the whole, just focusing on new testament chapters and verses.

Truly, The Bible is the most widely owned book while also being the least widely read book.


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