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Walk Don't Run

Lotsa quarter-notes and sounds hip. No lyrics to worry about. Timeless.


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JSJH wrote:
Walk Don't Run

Lotsa quarter-notes and sounds hip. No lyrics to worry about. Timeless.


+1

And the rhythm part is even easier: barre AAA GGG FFF E, repeat ad nauseum. Great song and lots of fun!


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Actually, the chords to Walk, Don't Run are correct for the intro (twice) but the main verse is:
||: AAA GGG FFF E... AAA GGG FFF F F C C G G, CFC, EEEEEEE : || A

One thing that can REALLY multiply & mushroom your song log is to learn all the variations on the basic 12-bar blues-rock formula and then apply them to all 12 (15?) keys. Here are some forms written in the Studio Fake-Chart (any key) Roman Numeral style:

||: I / I / I / I7 / IV / IV / I / I / V / IV / I / V7 : ||

||: I / IV / I / I7 / IV / IV / I / I / V / IV / I / I : ||

||: I / IV / I / I7 / IV / IV / I / I / IV / V / I / V7 : ||

Try them as all Majors. Then try I & IV as Minors (even the V can be Minor)

Note: Not all variations total 12 bars and these 3 examples above are just a few. Check out Chuck Berry tunes and for some REAL basics: George Thoroughgood. Also: Try variations with tempo & beat style, 12/8 instead of 4/4, etc.

Any time you want to learn a new chord, use chords you know well to change from & back to. This way your fingers have a chance to shift from forms already in your mind-to-hand skills. Chording may start off as a "put this finger here & this finger here" kind of thing, but it needs to become a full hand-form instant connection-reaction. Learning Barre forms and moving them up & down the neck works well at first, but eventually you will want to minimize your movements and keep the chord voicings in closer proximity whenever possible. Finally...... once you have plenty of chord forms to work with (216?) including augmented, suspended and several diminished forms, work on different rhythmic styles and apply those.


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SteveBirkeland:

I had the same question and the same attitude. I got a couple of months into the standard "learn guitar" books and decided that Michael Row The Boat Ashore wasn't the kind of music I wanted to play. Then I lucked into "How to play electric blues", by Alan Warner. This is a great book because it teaches whole blues songs. There's a CD with it. It's superbly done. Each lesson is challenging, and worthwhile. The guy really knows how to teach. The basic method is to learn individual licks, and then build a whole song from those licks. There is a tremendous amount of learning in each song. I'm amazed at how much of the fretboard I'm using, and I've only been playing since March. I don't think you can go wrong with this book if you're interested in blues.


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You mentioned that you'd like a blues song. Try doing a 12-bar blues and modulating at every final measure. This will help you learn your way around the fretboard in several keys.

i.e. G///C7///G///G7///C///C///G///G7///D7///C7///G7///C///G7//-Eb

then G#///etc...

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One important thing I have learned over the last 44 years in the music business is: You can't know enough different songs......
Even though you may focus on a particular type or genre of music, such as 'Blues', EVERY type of music can be & IS influenced by all the others. Point is, YOU should be too.... you can expand the possibilities brought to your primary musical interest with ideas gleaned from other sources. One needs to keep an open mind about the world of music and NOT be overly narrow-minded. Many such endeavors initially think: "Why bother to investigate, let alone LEARN, any song I'm not going to perform?" THIS is extremely LIMITING to your general musical knowledge and 'field of (audio) vision' when developing an 'ear' and style of your own. IE: The wider your scope, the more you have to draw from and the better you will become as a musician. That said, here are the chords to a song called "Mack, The Knife"...... it is a great tune to learn for it's constant key changes AND it's not that difficult, as it only has a few primary chords.

Take notice that this song would get boring real fast if NOT for the key changes (up a half step or 1 ROOT note each time around).

The 1st and 2nd verses are played in the starter key, but the 3rd time and each time afterward it 'climbs' a note by using the new key's V (5 or five) chord to validate the jump. (Use 4 beats to each chord between commas. 2 chords = 2 beats each) > The number 0 means diminished. < &: [ The slash separates the chord from the prime bass note. ]

1- || C, C6, Dm, Dm7, G, G7, C, C Em7/B, Am, A0, Dm7, Dm7, Dm7, G7, C, G7 ||

2- || C, C6, Dm, Dm7, G, G7, C, C Em7/B, Am, A0, Dm7, Dm7, Dm7, G7, C, G#7 ||

3- || C#, C#6, D#m, D#m7, G#, G#7, C#, C# Fm7/C, A#m, A#0, D#m7, D#m7, D#m7, G#7, C#, A7 ||

4- || D, D6, Em, Em7, A, A7, D, D F#m7/C#, Bm, B0, Em7, Em7, Em7, A7, D, Bb7 ||

5- || Eb, Eb6, Fm, Fm7, Bb, Bb7, Eb, Eb Gm7/D, Cm, C0, Fm7, Fm7, Fm7, Bb7, Eb, B7 ||

6- || E, E6, F#m, F#m7, B, B7, E, E G#m7/D#, C#m, C#0, F#m7, F#m7, F#m7, B7, E, C7 ||

7- || F, F6, Gm, Gm7, C, C7, F, F Am7/E, Gm7, Gm7, Gm7, C7 ! (stop or 1 beat cut & rest for 3 beats)

End- || : F, Bb6 : ||3x F ! , F9..........


It can also be charted simpler in Roman Numerals (for any key) as:

|| : I, I6, IIm, IIm7, V, V7, I, I IIIm7/VII, VIm, VI0, IIm7, IIm7, IIm7, V7, I; (1st time only) V7 : || (2nd time, et al) #V7 : ||

If you have any problem understanding or playing from either chart, print it out and show it to your music teacher or some other experienced musician friend. Even better if you have a chord-chart book, you can look them up on your own. Have fun & NEVER stop learning!


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Back to Walk Don't Run...

...the melody will get your counting and time working, even-ness of movement, picking dynamics...

...learning the rhtyhm part will get your left hand strength up on barre chords and understanding its use as backing tone...

...learning the bass line on six-string guitar will give you an education on how bass lines fit into the three-part structure.

Personally, 'have never found another song which does so much 'teaching.'


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JSJH: I absolutely agree! Walk, Don't Run (the Ventures) written by Johnny Smith and recorded by many artists is a great example of how melody, chords and bass lines inter-weave. So many songs of this nature can be much more difficult to learn, hear and understand this inter-play. It is the broader scope of knowing MORE than just YOUR part in any song. One can become that much more of a musician when realizing how your part fits into and against (audio positive) everyone else's.
This tune was one of the first songs I ever learned and I worked out all 3 parts (keeping aware of the percussion part): Lead (melody), Rhythm (chords) and Bass line. Over all, the Ventures material and many other instrumental songs, helped me expand my knowledge of music, how it works and why sounds inter-act as they do. Learning melodies of vocal tunes also greatly influenced my understanding of soloing and melody relationships to chord changes-bass lines.
The more you know and the more you learn, the easier it is to apply that knowledge to the next step, which makes the 'yet to know' already known. That may sound a bit weird, but believe me, it is true. You'll see.....

PS: For a straight-ahead Blues tune, you really can't do much better than Cream's version of Crossroads. They beefed it up in a way that really gives it 'balls'..... also: Rock & Roll by Led Zeppelin is in the same league. Both have a similar 1, 4, 1, 1(7).... 12-bar blues pattern. The 'turn-arounds' are a bit different. (the last 4 bars) Middle 4 bars are the same, just the "feel" of each is a little different, yet so similar. Many songs of this nature are like that; once you learn one, you know the essence of a ton.


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Yes, ' Walk Don't Run' is a good one. I started by playing lots of Shadows tunes, which are similar to this. I don't know whether you are acquanted with this group. Back in the early sixties they were big in the UK so we were all playing their stuff. Check it out, tunes like 'Wonderful Land' are easy and they sound great on a Strat [ if you have one ] add some hall reverb and a touch of delay. These tunes launched a lot of UK bands off in the sixties. Big bands, so they're not to be sniffed at.
Anyway in the end 'you choose' good luck and practice a lot, I hope it all works out.


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hi mates !
hi stevenbirkeland, for a beginner just try "scuttle buttin" of Stevie Ray !!! :lol:
i kid my friend, i kid !!
let's be serious !! :wink: just wanted to say i agree with the guy who suggested Jimmy hendrix's "Hey Joe", it's a good song to practice for a beginner, and SRV's "Cold shot" too, it's cool !!
but not with the guys who suggest tabs and tabs and tabs and books full of tabs you know, it's my opinion, i think the most important thing is the EARS, if you learn to tune (y' know what i mean ?!) yourself and listen carefully and deeply to the songs and the notes, i think it will be easy after that !! once you've located the notes on you fretboard ( yeh , before i forget .. take this http://www.curtsheller.com/pdf/FB6CH.pdf), and by the way learned to tune your guitar correctly (not with a digital tuner or something like that :lol: , it's not fair play) , second step, your chords (not all the chords of the history of rock, just the main chords)!!! 90% of the songs (rock, blues ,classic rock ,etc..!!!) are main chords basically !!in this step you CAN take a tab or two that contains your main chords !! and try to learn how to play each, then the mix !!

Finally , the song i suggest is
"Six Blade Knife" - Dire Straits
easy chords, easy tempo , and WHAT a depth !!
its not a malmsteen stuff y' know what i mean (talks too much but say nothin') , i think you will love this song !! its a very good song to learn !!
even the solos are fantastic (and easy), you will play it like a pro i think !!

you know !! the Dire Straits first LP is for you !! it's all playable !!!!!
you can also try with Jimmie Vaughan's "Sweet Soul vibe" its on the "strange pleasure" album, that i think it's a nice one too !!!

just few days of practice and you will let us listen a cool "srv's mary had a little lamb" of yours !! :D

i hope my post will help you!!
if any questions , just post mate !!

and don't forget what they said :wink: , think walkin' before Runnin' !!!!
and another thing , music is not TABS, it's EARS !!! if you think TABS, music will be a "finger on a fingerboard", and its absolutely not !!! its in your ears ! Listen .................................... Then Play. :) , just use tabs if you block or freeze in songs , a problem with a solo , or a chord difficult to find !! or simply after the mastery of Basics !!!

............ For all those about to rock, I salute you !!!! 8) ................


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Being a Ventures Fan, I am (& was) well-aware of Cliff Richard's back-up band. It was unusual because they had a 'life' of their own...... 2 careers, instrumentally and with Cliff on vocals. VERY few groups had such an avid following from double notoriety. Quite unique in the music Business. Of course, there are (& were) many others of similar ilk, such as Les Paul, Duane Eddy, etc. who spawned dual careers; on their own instrumentally and behind or with vocalists. Chet Atkins was another; Jeff Beck, the list goes on, but a band like the Shadows was a unit rather than a single or solo artist. Actually, what they did was more common during the big-band era. Most orchestras did instrumental tunes AND did material that featured a singer. Carlos Santana has done that type of thing over his illustrious career, but especially so in recent years. By investigating artists like these, you will discover that they pay close attention to vocal melody and it shows in their playing. In affect, it's something I term as 'Homage'. Learn what is going on with the vocal melody and incorporate it into your soloing. Check out groups like Journey...... Neal Schon's leads tend to emulate the lead vocal (or work OFF the vocal melody) in many cases.


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Its a good idea to try and play a song through-and-through instead of learning just part of it. I mean, not to be rude, but it just sorta seems silly IMO to learn one part of a song and leave the rest of it in the dust.

But with that, why not try "The Hand That Feeds" by Nine Inch Nails? Its really easy and uses simple power chords. (A, G, and C I think...)


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Come As You Are by Nirvana is an INCREDIBLY easy song, and it's really fun to play

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