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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes - iOS 13 coming
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:52 am
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It does not appear to be available in Canada.
I didn't check the USA site.
Apple Canada lists the Mac Pro as still being the black cylindrical style and to be honest that model seems like a lesser model than the new iMac Pro.
The iMac Pro is freakishly expensive though.
I used the build your own feature and loaded one up to the teeth and it was over $20K
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Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:14 pm
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I used the build your own feature and loaded one up to the teeth and it was over $20K
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I hope this monster comes with a maintenance plan. That's krazy, huh? Doesn't surprise me though. Increased cost building your own is often the situation unless you borrow some stuff from another computer or get components that are not up to current leading edge. Pretty much the same with a lot of electronics; although, it wasn't that long ago when deals were all over the place with a drop in new computer prices across the board (no pun intended). I think computing has gone the way of the automobile. Keep adding features, change the sheet metal, and sell the lifestyle. :wink: Mind you, we're talking about a mini Super computer when loaded up. :P
Not available in Canada? That's interesting. I wonder what the reasoning is. Maybe supply and demand. Thanks, for the info, BMW-KTM.

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$20K in American bucks or in Canadian Loonies with a loss of 25 cents on the dollar and tax and duty? Snicker.

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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes - iOS 13 coming
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:03 pm
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This is the Mac Pro on the Apple Canada site.
That black cylindrical version has been around a couple of years.
It was at one time the way to get the most screamin' Mac ever conceived but with the introduction of the iMac Pro ....

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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes - iOS 13 coming
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:31 pm
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This is the Mac Pro on the Apple Canada site.
That black cylindrical version has been around a couple of years.
It was at one time the way to get the most screamin' Mac ever conceived but with the introduction of the iMac Pro ....
Thanks, for the link, Matt. Not only is that a great computer, but the presentation is a work of art.

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One would be surprised at the games, designs, and productions made on lesser computers. Sometimes, the home PC (as today) could kick butt with the software builders' computer which may have preceded the introduction and distribution of your output on screen. Less chances of that today; but, not impossible as we an see with this Apple example. It's all about budget and timing and imagination.

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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:25 am
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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes - iOS 13 coming
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:55 am
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BMW-KTM wrote:
This is the Mac Pro on the Apple Canada site.
That black cylindrical version has been around a couple of years.
It was at one time the way to get the most screamin' Mac ever conceived but with the introduction of the iMac Pro ....

I just can't decide if I want the $3500 model or the $4700 model. Decisions decisions.

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For a company that always wanted to be the "hip" alternative, it's pretty funny Apple is focusing on a business machine right now and Microsoft is like "let's blow stuff up!".

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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:35 am
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It's a monster for sure!

Wow! :shock:

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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes - iOS 13 coming
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:18 am
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Funny you should mention Alienware, Ghost. I was thinking of that and others, with Windows being a personal choice for some things, certainly for me, especially with a history of files and programs, but not all.

Hardware is one thing. but with Windows 10 sitting on the fence for another upgrade or change in the future (as MS loves to or has to do) that OS and its relative browser and program requirements and management (deep or otherwise) are getting to be long in the tooth time wasters for my liking. I used to enjoy dinking into the finer tweaks; but, now that the traffic is so heavy, geekiness has lost it’s initial charm for me. Besides, it’s plain to see, and believe me when I say, and as you probably know, I’m not an devout Apple fan, that MS is generally geared up mostly for the business or developer world. I know of IT techs who won’t recommend Apple for their business, for example and for a variety of reasons. I can’t count the number of times you’ll see Windows XP on an office desk, and I think cost or organization comes into the factor; but, it should be noted that not all office computers are hooked up to the Net so browsers, compatibility, and the like are not an issue for them.

When it comes to gaming we know MS can keep up with the best. When it works, and that has as much to do with the hardware as with the system. Like all maximized dedicated computing, computers sometimes do things best when they aren’t requested to be out of their comfort zone. Some things are best handheld by Apple and others by MIcrosoft IMHO. Back to the browser wars. Browsers are now shaking that old school up. Things like MS Office are migrated to online and that trend appears to be the present and future so hardware needs are changing too. I’m of the belief that old files, programs, and practices have a lot to do with retaining the present OS traditions. Of course, few prefer to give up control, and I can’t say I blame them; but, then you have to take care of that baby, and it means more work.

Specs and cost are one thing, but today, with all the technology and multi-tasking, how it works will be something to consider or not.

The Apple/Microsoft ongoing comparison reminds me of this true story told to me while shooting a car commercial. Toronto was not short of Rolls Royce’s at the time. The boss of a lot asked his sales staff to explain why that pristine used one was not yet sold after more than a month. No one had an answer because it was a screaming deal for the right customer, and for some reason there were no bites. It was under priced to move quickly and, being a Rolls owned by a high roller, there was nothing wrong with it. “Put the price up” was the answer from the boss. The car sold within a week. Moral of the story: cheap doesn't always mean lesser, and expensive doesn’t always improve the product. It might, however, grab your attention. Of course, if it doesn’t meet your needs it may just sit there and look purty. :wink:
Doesn’t mean you can’t still drive down that road, until there’s a roadblock or detour. :lol:
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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes - iOS 13 coming
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:10 am
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Hardware is one thing. but with Windows 10 sitting on the fence for another upgrade or change in the future (as MS loves to or has to do) that OS and its relative browser and program requirements and management (deep or otherwise) are getting to be long in the tooth time wasters for my liking.

Nice timing! Microsoft seems to be on the same page. :)
Microsoft is sick of you not upgrading, and has a solution: Windows 10 will be the final “version” of Windows. Ever.

This is called Windows As A Service, and it’s a big deal. To understand what it means, think of Gmail or Facebook: longtime users know these services have changed over the years, but there aren’t “versions” of them. There’s no Facebook XP, or Gmail 7 – there’s just Facebook, and Gmail, both of which change over time.

Windows, apparently, is going to be like that. Microsoft’s Terry Meyer explains:

“And just like any Internet service, the idea of asking ‘What version are you on?’ will cease to make sense.

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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes - iOS 13 coming
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:29 pm
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I won't be buying an iPhone 11 (XI or whatever they call it) :

https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/ne ... b-c-rumour

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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes - iOS 13 coming
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:09 pm
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Fender Strat Brat wrote:
Hardware is one thing. but with Windows 10 sitting on the fence for another upgrade or change in the future (as MS loves to or has to do) that OS and its relative browser and program requirements and management (deep or otherwise) are getting to be long in the tooth time wasters for my liking.

Nice timing! Microsoft seems to be on the same page. :)
Microsoft is sick of you not upgrading, and has a solution: Windows 10 will be the final “version” of Windows. Ever.

This is called Windows As A Service, and it’s a big deal. To understand what it means, think of Gmail or Facebook: longtime users know these services have changed over the years, but there aren’t “versions” of them. There’s no Facebook XP, or Gmail 7 – there’s just Facebook, and Gmail, both of which change over time.

Windows, apparently, is going to be like that. Microsoft’s Terry Meyer explains:

“And just like any Internet service, the idea of asking ‘What version are you on?’ will cease to make sense.

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That may indeed be the case, but I remember NT’s introduction being the golden egg. Windows 10 is a derivative of 8.1 which followed Windows 7, all part of the Windows NT OS per se.

While Facebook and Gmail have no versions, as you pointed out, Windows 10 does have versions. It may not be released or called as in the past, but the similar concerns exist. As I alluded to earlier, “Windows 10 sitting on the fence for another upgrade” that is the case. Features added, features dropped, security added, security dropped, compatibility, no compatibility, specification requirements, support, no support and the list goes on as many versions have already been added and followed that flow with more to come. Recent versions have arrived and on May29/19 this:

https://pureinfotech.com/tag/windows-10-1903-19h1/

5 days ago (June 5/19) this preview release 20H1 (10.0.189.12).

For this purpose the name or the method of installation is moot, only that the results will present the same benefits and disadvantages in the same way with similar timing and disruptions as we have experienced in the past. New wrapper, but what’s in the box? Okay, it’s a little shinier.

In the end, the mode of delivery to our desktop and the hardware will dictate how this is to be, or if it is to be. For now, it may be the best we have, but some would say it’s not the best we can get.

Prior to OS we had loaders where a program was loaded and took over the computer. Hmm? Could history repeat itself? It’s questionable as to what was the first OS; but, one thing is sure, operating systems have been around for at least half a century. We still haven’t gotten it down to a reliable satisfactory system for all, and I doubt we ever will, or even if that’s possible unless we’re forced into submission,

As for iTunes leaving. The replacement should be interesting, until naysayers and yay sayers have their say. :wink:
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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes - iOS 13 coming
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While Facebook and Gmail have no versions, as you pointed out, Windows 10 does have versions.

so the article states that they are moving in that direction, not that they have already made the change. Who knows, they might decide to go in a different direction. I think the real gist of it is to say you won't see "Windows 11" or whatever they would call the next full OS release. Google Chrome has versions, but you don't call it "Google Chrome 10" or anything like that. It's just Google Chrome.


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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:41 am
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. . . I think the real gist of it is to say you won't see "Windows 11" or whatever they would call the next full OS release. Google Chrome has versions, but you don't call it "Google Chrome 10" or anything like that. It's just Google Chrome.
Yup! Just like Vanilla. There’s no Vanilla 1.0 or Vanilla 1.0.1; but, there is French Vanilla just like Chocolate and Dutch Chocolate. The vanillas taste similar to each other as do the chocolates. They are, however, not alike at the same time and not everybody likes each one. :wink: sometimes, they get a little rippled for the nuts out there. :lol:
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I hate my iPhone X, a minor screen problem (YMMV) with no response that has been admitted by Apple, no phone jack, doesn’t respond if it sits in the hot sun on the patio table for a reasonable amount of time, the notch, OLED is reported to fade over a long time (depending on use) and may be replaced or surpassed for certain other characteristics, these are just some of the enjoyable features.

I would prefer a phone that sounded good like my old Motorola Startac and one that I could read or see in the sunlight. That would be a good start. Oh, yeah. Give me back the head phone jack. For those of you who prefer wireless, and I have that option with large and small Bluetooth pods and quality headsets; but, having brain cancer hit my family, I prefer to use them sparingly until a definitive non partisan research is conclusive. It has been announced that Canada is gearing up to begin a completely new approach to doing just that. Finding a cause and effect. Can’t say that cellphones and all cause the problem, but the potential is there and besides, you know those wires you ditched for wireless, so now you have more of the same for adapters? That’s really cool. 8)

IPhone XI? I’d rather buy a bridge to nowhere. With or without iTunes.

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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:48 am
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Yup! Just like Vanilla. There’s no Vanilla 1.0 or Vanilla 1.0.1; but, there is French Vanilla just like Chocolate and Dutch Chocolate. The vanillas taste similar to each other as do the chocolates. They are, however, not alike at the same time and not everybody likes each one.

I guess the burning questions on everybody's lips at this point would be ...

If Vanilla is French, does it stop being vanilla?
If Chocolate is Dutch, does it stop being Chocolate?
If you load Windows 10 while you're in France, does it become French Windows 10?


Inquiring minds want to know.


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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:28 am
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ghost_of_strings wrote:
Fender Strat Brat wrote:
Yup! Just like Vanilla. There’s no Vanilla 1.0 or Vanilla 1.0.1; but, there is French Vanilla just like Chocolate and Dutch Chocolate. The vanillas taste similar to each other as do the chocolates. They are, however, not alike at the same time and not everybody likes each one.

I guess the burning questions on everybody's lips at this point would be ...

If Vanilla is French, does it stop being vanilla?
If Chocolate is Dutch, does it stop being Chocolate?
If you load Windows 10 while you're in France, does it become French Windows 10?


Inquiring minds want to know.

:lol:
In Quebec it might be seen as Windows DIX Canadien-Français

Unless you’re In Old Montreal where you might find copies of Windows 95 Canadien-Français that has a theme startup with Celine Dion. :P
Hey! Now there’s an idea. In Texas we could see a Willie Nelson startup. :lol:
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