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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes? Keynote today 10am (PST)
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:16 am
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Apple dissolves iTunes into new apps

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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes? Keynote today 10am (PST)
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Marky Forrest wrote:
Today in BBC News:

Apple dissolves iTunes into new apps

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-485 ... technology


Yes, some new features will replace others as well as brand new features. I'm not
sure how many are that useful (for me anyway) :

https://www.cnet.com/news/ios-13-every- ... pple-wwdc/

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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes? Keynote today 10am (PST)
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:40 pm
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Miami Mike wrote:
Marky Forrest wrote:
Today in BBC News:

Apple dissolves iTunes into new apps

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-485 ... technology


Yes, some new features will replace others as well as brand new features. I'm not
sure how many are that useful (for me anyway) :

https://www.cnet.com/news/ios-13-every- ... pple-wwdc/

I was surprised to read that Apple holds only 10% of the world cell phone market. I would have guessed it to be much higher.

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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:21 pm
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Or you can wait for awhile, and Google will have all your files, mine and the others, without having to give them to the Giant. :lol: Who knows, maybe they already have them :?: There’s always a chance they may not give them back. Just ask the past Photobucket fans here.:wink:

Google is an exception. . . . “Your data is as safe with Google as any other tech company”. Probably more so. Here is a list of data breaches. The only Google product listed is "Google Plus" which they have pulled the plug on . . .
Thanks, for the list, Ghost. You’re likely right that “Your data is as safe with Google as any other tech company”. I’m not so sure that's comforting, at least for me. though.

First - True that Google had been breached with their Google Plus. However, earlier this year a 57 million dollars fine was handed to Google for a reported breach of data protection which basically came down to poor communication regarding their users’ data.

Meanwhile, other similar action is taking place as we speak.

Second - If that wasn’t enough. the following recent event goes to add to the trend of sharing your data by Google. It doesn’t necessarily give trendy others (such as Facebook) a pass, but it does add to the questions of who’s data is it anyway, who gets to use it, how do they get it, what do they get, and will you be informed? https://www.dailypioneer.com/2019/techn ... cerns.html

Third- As for educational endorsements, that’s an argument not under the microscope; but, because motivation, economics, and politics, to be brief, play a part, maybe the process should be.

It is rare that these offerings come with no strings attached or rewards in Spades for the provider. Monsanto has a building here on campus (long story short). Hydro (owned by taxpayers) had school kids deliver free plastic mercury filled CFL lights door to door with a promotion for the same. Those CFLs were soon taken off the market for not being environmentally safe as the kids were duped into thinking they were. Now laws for their disposal have come into play.

I could discuss how some of the hardware and software with schools does or could have alternative spin-offs, including data mining, but that is another topic best set aside.

I certainly see the advantage to helping out the kids of the future and their institutions, but, with university enrolments under investigation, and such, charity and arts support for questionable corporate, personal, special interest, or political gain I know that you can’t judge a book by it’s cover.

Are Apple, Google, or Facebook gonna keep your data safe or will they just keep your data? Will your music always be available? How about your photos or documents? Is your data where you expect it to be? Are your stored online files always going to work with your app or program? Or, as with browsers, will you find you need to install some new app or program, perhaps, with a charge, to work with your files? Maybe, with luck and/or disgust, your lost files will turn up somewhere unexpected. :lol:
Is any of this the Russians, the Chinese, or homegrown Big Brother? Can’t say other than, “Oh Brother”. :roll:
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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes? Keynote today 10am (PST)
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:01 pm
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Thanks, for the added info on the changeover, Marky and Mike.

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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes? Keynote today 10am (PST)
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macOS Catalina kills off 32-bit apps and Dashboard widgets.

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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes
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the following recent event goes to add to the trend of sharing your data by Google.

the problem is not Google doing Google things and being Google. The problem is, people sign up for these services and as long as they don't have to pay with a credit card, they think it's all "free". But it's not. And the underlying problem there is, people DO NOT read the privacy policy. I can guarantee with all the resources at Google's disposal, their lawyers spelled out all the risk in fine detail and accounted for it in the privacy policy. The wording is not confusing. People are just lazy and they want something for free, and when Google turns around and shares your info just like they said they would in the agreement, suddenly people can pay attention.

https://policies.google.com/terms?hl=en-US

https://policies.google.com/privacy?hl=en-US

When Google shares your information
We do not share your personal information with companies, organizations, or individuals outside of Google except in the following cases:

With your consent
We’ll share personal information outside of Google when we have your consent. For example, if you use Google Home to make a reservation through a booking service, we’ll get your permission before sharing your name or phone number with the restaurant. We’ll ask for your explicit consent to share any sensitive personal information.

With domain administrators
If you’re a student or work for an organization that uses Google services (like G Suite), your domain administrator and resellers who manage your account will have access to your Google Account. They may be able to:

- Access and retain information stored in your account, like your email
- View statistics regarding your account, like how many apps you install
- Change your account password
- Suspend or terminate your account access
- Receive your account information in order to satisfy applicable law, regulation, legal process, or enforceable governmental request
- Restrict your ability to delete or edit your information or your privacy settings

For external processing
We provide personal information to our affiliates and other trusted businesses or persons to process it for us, based on our instructions and in compliance with our Privacy Policy and any other appropriate confidentiality and security measures. For example, we use service providers to help us with customer support.

For legal reasons
We will share personal information outside of Google if we have a good-faith belief that access, use, preservation, or disclosure of the information is reasonably necessary to:

- Meet any applicable law, regulation, legal process, or enforceable governmental request. We share information about the number and type of requests we receive from governments in our Transparency Report.
- Enforce applicable Terms of Service, including investigation of potential violations.
- Detect, prevent, or otherwise address fraud, security, or technical issues.
- Protect against harm to the rights, property or safety of Google, our users, or the public as required or permitted by law.

We may share non-personally identifiable information publicly and with our partners — like publishers, advertisers, developers, or rights holders. For example, we share information publicly to show trends about the general use of our services. We also allow specific partners to collect information from your browser or device for advertising and measurement purposes using their own cookies or similar technologies.

If Google is involved in a merger, acquisition, or sale of assets, we’ll continue to ensure the confidentiality of your personal information and give affected users notice before personal information is transferred or becomes subject to a different privacy policy.


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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes? Keynote today 10am (PST)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:42 am
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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:03 pm
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ghost_of_strings wrote:
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the following recent event goes to add to the trend of sharing your data by Google.

the problem is not Google doing Google things and being Google. The problem is, people sign up for these services and as long as they don't have to pay with a credit card, they think it's all "free". But it's not. And the underlying problem there is, people DO NOT read the privacy policy.
For the most part I agree, Ghost. As for free, consider paid for radio and TV with commercials. Great deal, huh?

For the reasons you mention I make it a point to read the EULAs (we both know that isn’t always the case for others) and made decisions. However, both third parties and Google, not alone, have ways and means and history of avoiding transparency regardless of notification and EULAs. You might as well be signing forms at a financial institution. Some is intended, some is carelessness, and some is the nature of the beast. Even big institutions make mistakes, and are far from cooperation or discovery, as I have recently experienced. Rules, regulation, and legislation are conflicting and vague or left to interpretation as courts are familiar with while they judge the long lineups of related complaints.

If your data is passed on to or out of Google, Facebook, or other without your permission or knowledge, would it not be like stolen goods you received from someone else who stole the goods? If someone steals and uses your credit card without your permission who gets penalized? In the short term, usually, the provider, in the long term the owner. But, I digress. The fact is it is difficult if not impossible to avoid Google even if you were not to own a personal computer. As we speak, there is a concentrated move to break up the giant monopolies for such a reason. Too late I think. The cat is out of the bag.

For those of us who embraced the Net early on, it was before anti-virus, anti-malware, and overall we had security and privacy issues. Has that changed? Yep! There have been improvements in many cases, but in some it has simply become more confusing, complicated, tuned up, and and refined. Let’s not forget the money. Money talks.

If you go into a dangerous neighbourhood it doesn’t mean harm will come to you; but it could, and does to others. It also doesn’t mean that danger can’t come and go to and from your otherwise safe neighbourhood, and it does. You might not even know the danger exists because it’s not readily visible or announced. It might even be disguised and appear acceptably normal or better than normal. Regardless, everybody pays, and yet most choose to ignore what’s affecting the neighbourhood. Just sayin’. :wink:
So, we venture out believing all is fine or all is not. Okay, maybe some is.

As a former commercial director I can tell you everything can be sold in a perfect or near perfect wrapper. It doesn’t mean everyone will buy it, but if enough people buy it that’s a sign of success that is likely to bring more success.

Often the practice is Napoleonic. In his time he might be told of the troops morale being low because they didn’t like their blue uniforms. He addressed the situation by holding up a yellow hat in one hand and a purple one in the other questioning the soldiers as to which one would they choose? The problem is the majority wanted red, white, and blue, but no one checked, the assumption was made, and the choice was no choice at all, and they could not leave the choice made. They had no option but to take what was given.

The similarity between Photobucket and Google is choice. In the end we have, as you said, choices (with limitations or maybe no choice at all). Let’s hope it’s the right one. :wink:

Hey! We can always Google it. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes - iOS 13 coming
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:49 am
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I finally have my music all backed up. Also thinking of not updating to
Catalina at least until compatible with the programs I use.

iOS13 - Not much interest there. I don't need a gaming controller
or the dark mode crap.

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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes - iOS 13 coming
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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes - iOS 13 coming
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:27 am
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Miami Mike wrote:
I finally have my music all backed up. Also thinking of not updating to
Catalina at least until compatible with the programs I use.

iOS13 - Not much interest there. I don't need a gaming controller
or the dark mode crap.
Hey there, Mike:

I totally get that. For example, 32 bit and 64 bit programs are often problematic in decisions about making a jump in an either/or direction. Sometimes you get lucky and have the opportunity to go full 64 bit, Then there is the OS move to an upgraded.version or the choosing of a different OS. We don’t stop there though. Perhaps, plugins take a hike with the transition. Maybe, that browser becomes incompatible with security, the dropping of or addition of features. Perhaps, the needed programs associated with the browser
have decided not to play nice and take a hike. Maybe, the new version of your preferred program is no longer to your liking . Maybe, it’s an app that you have less control over as developers make constant changes because they can. Maybe, they just don’t work. Blah blah blah.

I, like most who when first getting into computing, was a gamer in the little leagues. Starting with DOS, games like Pong, Castle, Pac-Man. Space Invaders, Commander Keen, and more including rare promotional games, onto NASCAR and Doom, both of which have other similar followings, and the odd new age games such as Age of Empires and the like, left me or I left them because of time or boredom. Well. not that I wouldn’t play the odd game today, but horizontal, vertical, up and down moves ain’t my thing. I’m tired of jumping and carrying that mace or magic wand. I’ve rolled over in a car so many times I should be in a hospital, but I can’t find the secret portal. I prefer to run out of bullets, except I’d like to shoot that guy playing Japanese theme music on the saloon piano, and maybe Game Over means something different to me. Still, I don’t expect to remove the fun from anyone’s enjoyment. I’d like to move gaming entirely to dedicated computing like XBox and PlayStation though. Isn’t it mostly gamers that complain about bloatware? How about gaming and the related changes made or added on your PC or Mac? Is that not bloatware for those of us who don’t need the constant interruptions of a related fix or an addition or a removal?

I’m with you, Mike.

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Post subject: Re: Apple dropping iTunes - iOS 13 coming
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:39 pm
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I still can't imagine how practical the new machine is for most of us:


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I couldn't transfer any of my .mp3 files that didn't have any sort of copy protection scheme. I went to some considerable effort to record those files from vinyl.
I see and hear people making comments similar to yours from time to time.
The first few times I encountered it, I was in confusion.
That does not, could not happen in my world.
The only way mp3s ever get loaded onto my handheld device is when I copy them onto it from files that already exist on my computer, of which I always have at least 2 backups.
There was a time when my back-ups were rarely done but I have had enough experience with catastrophe to learn my lesson.
In the rare event I purchase music from right on the device the first thing I do at the earliest convenience is to transfer those purchases into the library on my disk and then back it up.
In a situation like yours, ripping from vinyl, the files would have been generated on my computer and then backed up.

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Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:11 pm
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In the rare event I purchase music from right on the device the first thing I do at the earliest convenience is to transfer those purchases into the library on my disk and then back it up.
In a situation like yours, ripping from vinyl, the files would have been generated on my computer and then backed up.
+1 Matt. Been there done that too. In fact my cellphone provider in the past had provided music in their own weird format. Here today gone tomorrow. Lesson learned.


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I still can't imagine how practical the new machine is for most of us:

Would I buy one if I had the spare change or need. Yup! Is it ground breaking? Nope. IMHO.

Lemme see:

Cool Design - Check! 8) Aluminum and Stainless Steel? - Nice! Looks like my BBQ Grill.
Wheels? - Optional? My BBQ comes with them.
Faster response - Probably, but . . .time will tell.
Leading edge graphic card? Sure.
3D? - My old 1995 PC 120 did that with the leading edge card of the day.
CAD? - My old 1995 PC 120 did that with the leading edge card of the day.
Awesome processor - Check!
Lots of onboard memory - Check!
Quieter - With three fans? Hmmm.
32" Wide Screen? - Comparable to a 4:3 26 inch (with more room on the sides). Decent. Go Big or Go Home they say.
Monitor Display - Bright and improved contrast - Check!
6K Higher Resolution - Little Check! For those times you can use it and the times you wish you didn't.
(Samsung is promoting 8K now, and others are sure to follow to match the video display that this Mac Pro can provide) :lol: Flat screens are still catching up to CRT's skin tones and they'll get there without looking like the characters are wearing caked on makeup. YMMV "But, it's sharp and bright!"
Colour? - As long as it's grass green, sky blue, and flesh tone it's good to go.
Horizontal and Vertical Auto Display? - Wow! Just like the old one in front of me and I didn't have to sell the farm, but it cost a lot less now.
Surround Sound? - Hope so. Nothing new there.
How is the sound from the monitor? Does anyone care at that price point?
Headset Jack? - It's an Apple.

Bragging rights? - Check! Still, impressive. The cost and value? Not so much in Canadian dollars methinks. I want one. :mrgreen:
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