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Jimi vs Stevie
Poll ended at Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:07 pm
Jimi 63%  63%  [ 10 ]
SRV 38%  38%  [ 6 ]
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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:25 am
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you seem to be coming from a 'popular music only' perspective. In classical music, there is often the composer and the musicians, separately. I would imagine Mozart had some bad-ass violin players who were not innovative or original.


Technically, they'd be "session musicians".

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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:45 am
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I'm gonna have to go with Hendrix. Stevie is the better singer, though.


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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:48 am
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violin players are violin players. I can be a composer in the morning, a session musician in the afternoon, and a fry cook at night. And the entire time, I'd be a guitar player. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:59 am
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strings10927 wrote:
violin players are violin players. I can be a composer in the morning, a session musician in the afternoon, and a fry cook at night. And the entire time, I'd be a guitar player. :wink:


As would you be all the others. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:01 pm
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right, these are just labels, but they don't change who we are or what we can do. Put it this way, can you be a session musician without first learning to play an instrument?

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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:05 pm
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strings10927 wrote:
right, these are just labels, but they don't change who we are or what we can do. Put it this way, can you be a session musician without first learning to play an instrument?


Or a fry cook without knowing how to fry or cook?

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:07 pm
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No I listen to all kinds of music from all around the world from all time periods. Session players and hired professional orchestral musicians are completely different. Just because someone is hired to play someone else's music, doesn't mean they can't be original or innovative as well. The topic is SRV and Hendrix, and I still stand by my opinion. It's easier to be a Parrot than an original. Parroting covers almost anything. Look at Ibanez guitars in the 70's. They copied Strats, Les Pauls, Martins you name it. Automobile's,the same thing. Hyundai's logo even resembles Honda's. It's just easy. Just copy someone else's idea or style. Stevie copped a lot of stuff from Albert King. Johnny Winter was an abomination in the blues world because he played Blues "too fast", then everybody was doing it. Look at Alvin Lee. Stole the show at Woodstock even though Johnny Winter was there. He never made the movie, neither did CCR but for different reasons.

Seems like a lot of people have a very narrow field of view, only listening to a handful of people who are real popular at the time and skipping over the not so obvious stuff. It goes for everything even gear. If we all just open our eyes and ears the old can become new to us.

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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:16 pm
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:29 pm
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You forgot this guy. I had a ball photographing him. Innovator and genius and session musician. And still not one person can Parrot him perfectly.

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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:32 pm
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That's a nice bass John Paul Jones has there.


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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:35 am
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rileymcc wrote:
SRV's a mockery of a bluesman. He sounds about as 'blue' as the wiggles or some other children shows music... SRV on the other hand, I can feel bugger all, most likely cause he tries to play a bunch of emotions he probably doesn't have in the first place.


Man, I was trying not to fall for the bait but here I am replying. Look, I can totally understand not likely SRV. When I was about 13 or 14 my Dad tried to get me to listen to him and I thought he was a hack in comparison to the high and mighty EVH (who was my favorite guitarist at the time). But a mockery? The wiggles? Sorry dude, but we must be coming from different planets on this one. People debate what is "blues" or not all the time, and yes SRV has a different spin on blues than say, Robert Johnson, but I'm pretty sure those emotions were real and he had plenty of places to draw from for them. Everybody does, some more than others, but it's there. Ah well, to each his own.

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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:44 am
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Yep, and Hendrix still wins. I've heard SRV play just as sloppy and sloppier live. Stevie also repeated the same licks over and over again. They were his signature licks. They got old with me after a while.


I think that just about everyone has a sloppy performance every now and then. And for anyone who had rock star like substance abuse issues, even more so. There are some SRV videos I've seen that hurt to watch, and some Hendrix live recordings that are so sloppy and badly out of tune that I can't really listen to them, and in a live Zeppelin clip I once saw Jimmy Page looked like he was about to fall over.

I don't think that SRV was any more a parrot than the Rolling Stones were to Muddy Waters. There's no such thing as something truly original, it's human nature to borrow things from other people when it comes to anything creative. You're never going to come up with a recipe where nothing in it has ever been done before, or any song that is 100% different from any other. There is something to be said for taking something and making it your own, and I think SRV did a better job of that than some of the SRV clones that came later. But I do agree, you're never really going to get beyond playing in local bars with a cover band if you just sound like SRV.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:53 am
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I'm going to be controversial and say there's no contest for me - I just don't really like SRV. :lol:

I went through a big phase when I was younger of thinking he was the best thing since sliced bread, but these days I just find him a bit boring, particularly now after listening to a lot more blues than I had back then. He's kind of a 'blues lite' for me. Jimi was the real thing, regardless of how much fuzz he used or how far out of tune he went.

Right that's it, I'm running now before I get my limbs torn off. :lol:


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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:37 am
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Vulpinity wrote:
I'm going to be controversial and say there's no contest for me - I just don't really like SRV. :lol:

I went through a big phase when I was younger of thinking he was the best thing since sliced bread, but these days I just find him a bit boring, particularly now after listening to a lot more blues than I had back then. He's kind of a 'blues lite' for me. Jimi was the real thing, regardless of how much fuzz he used or how far out of tune he went.

Right that's it, I'm running now before I get my limbs torn off. :lol:


I NEVER thought SRV was the best thing since sliced bread. Aside from this, I completely agree with you. Oh, and that guy running right along side of you is me!

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:56 am
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Why these silly contests? You either like one or both, or none. Personally, I've got a massive list of players I can't stand to listen to, and most of them are guitar forum favourites - barely heard of outside of them, and their smallish throng of devotees.

I can't listen to him anymore, but Hendrix place in history is secure, as is SRV. It helps to die young and pretty too - that always ensures you were rated higher than you might otherwise have been. Hendrix undoubtedly innovated, but he also played some flat-out crap, and badly.

If both were still alive they'd be talked about with the same reverence reserved for BB King - even if they'd long slipped into mediocrity, and were doing matinées in Vegas, and guest duels with Gary Clake Jnr.


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