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Jimi vs Stevie
Poll ended at Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:07 pm
Jimi 63%  63%  [ 10 ]
SRV 38%  38%  [ 6 ]
Total votes : 16
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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:58 am
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rileymcc wrote:
SRV's a mockery of a bluesman. He sounds about as 'blue' as the wiggles or some other children shows music.

Hendrix, is good. Wouldn't consider him the blues, but man can I feel his guitar playing. SRV on the other hand, I can feel bugger all, most likely cause he tries to play a bunch of emotions he probably doesn't have in the first place.



thought provoking response.

Mockery maybe a stretch :P


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I have every book written on Jimi and Stevie never met Jimi, this is a urban myth.

Hendrix spent much of his time in the UK and Eur during his short career from 66-70 - that's where he was big. It's hard to see how a 12-16 yo Vaughan would get a chance to meet him.


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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:56 am
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rileymcc wrote:
SRV's a mockery of a bluesman.


SRV played in many styles, blues, jazz, rock, and even what you could consider 'pop'. He played on David Bowie's "Let's Dance" and Stevie Wonder's "Characters". Can you picture any real 'bluesmen' playing on a David Bowie track?

Stevie happened to play a lot of blues covers, I don't think he or any of his marketing ever portrayed Stevie as a 'bluesman'. The problem is the average uninformed listener can't tell the difference, and that goes to show you just how good he really was.

The pitting of one guitar player against another in a 'celebrity death match' manner seems absurd to me, but I guess it's all in good fun. I'd have to vote for Hendrix, just because I've never heard anything by any guitar player that was as intense of a listening experience as 'Are You Experienced' was for me when I was 12 years old.

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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:16 am
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None of the above.

John Mayer.

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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:24 am
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If it weren't for shall we say, his "borrowing" the stylings of Jimi Hendrix, Albert King and Johnny Winter, SRV wouldn't have had a career.

As always, this is merely IMO where YMMV.

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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:00 am
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The pitting of one guitar player against another in a 'celebrity death match' manner seems absurd to me, but I guess it's all in good fun.

I'd have to vote for Hendrix, just because I've never heard anything by any guitar player that was as intense of a listening experience as 'Are You Experienced' was for me when I was 12 years old.


Agreed !

Every Artist, whether it be Bethoven or Picasso (or Jimi/SRV) builds on the shoulders of those who came before.

Hendrix didn't start in '66 as another member said... he started much earlier than that. He was the lead guitar in Little Richard's Travelling Review (until he started getting greater applause than Lil Richard), he was a studio musician in LA and worked with Glen Campbell (before Glen got his break) and others doing everything from studio guitar for the Isley Brothers recordings to even the Beach Boys.

Hendrix greatest influence was "Charlie" Christian (1916 – 1942) who was THE 1st innovator with the Electric Guitar, bringing the guitar out of the Rythm section and voicing it in the 'front', especially with the Benny Goodman Orchestra. His other big influence was Wes Montgomery.

Each of these guitarists developed unique styles and techniques and most of what Hendrix plays can be seen directly as a combination (or plagerism) of the two.

Ranking Guitar players with their unique styles and sounds is like comparing Mickie Mantle to Gordie Howe, and actually quite pointless.

You can like one over the other, but can't really rank one over the other. And don't forget... There's NO Law which says you can't simply like them both. IMO people of narrow thinking try to rank things in order to make it easier to comprehend them.

It's enough to say that we were blessed to receive each of these artists offerings... that the World wouldn't be as Full if either hadn't contributed.

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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:05 am
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Martian wrote:
If it weren't for shall we say, his "borrowing" the stylings of Jimi Hendrix, Albert King and Johnny Winter, SRV wouldn't have had a career.

That's hard to say, but you could just as easily go out on a limb with:

If it weren't for shall we say, his "borrowing" the stylings of Muddy Waters, Elmore James and Chuck Berry, Hendrix wouldn't have had a career.

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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:47 am
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I love Stevie, but he was pretty much influenced by Hendrix and many others and not really all that original. Hendrix was an original and an sonic innovator. He did things that were never done before. There's no contest here.

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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
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63supro wrote:
There's no contest here.


If you take technical proficiency into account, there is. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:15 am
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Yep, and Hendrix still wins. I've heard SRV play just as sloppy and sloppier live. Stevie also repeated the same licks over and over again. They were his signature licks. They got old with me after a while.

I was told by Luther Allison that as long as you play with enough authority, you'll always sound good. Many, Many old Bluesmen gave me the same advice. Stevie did just that. I'm not saying he wasn't talented, just not innovative or original.

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Yep, and Hendrix still wins. I've heard SRV play just as sloppy and sloppier live. Stevie also repeated the same licks over and over again. They were his signature licks. They got old with me after a while.

I was told by Luther Allison that as long as you play with enough authority, you'll always sound good. Many, Many old Bluesmen gave me the same advice. Stevie did just that. I'm not saying he wasn't talented, just not innovative or original.


...I'm not saying he wasn't talented, just not innovative or original.

Herein lies the crux of the matter.

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is that the only measurable worth of a guitar player? If so, I can think of very few ...

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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:51 am
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There's a lot of talented Parrots. Kenny Wayne Shepherd and Jonny Lang come to mind as well as John Mayer. :shock: Please don't turn this into a fanboy thread.
For me, I like players who at least try something different. To be fearless. I like the rawness of Jack White. He's not real technical, but he gets his point across.

I miss all the originality. The first time I saw John McLaughlin and the Mahavishnu Orchestra it took me two days to get my jaw off the floor. Same thing with Frank Zappa.

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:01 am
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is that the only measurable worth of a guitar player? If so, I can think of very few ...


For me it is. There's more than you think. They're not on top 40 radio. They're in the small clubs and other venues. Anyone can be a Parrot. Look at all the Strats with Hats that showed up for a while. I saw a kid a few months ago in a bar in Philly coping SRV licks like there was no tomorrow. He was 17. His Dad asked me what I thought and I said he's talented but he sounds too much like SRV. His Dad wondered if that was a bad thing, and I told him only if he wants to be successful. I told him he needs to be himself and not strive to sound like someone else. He thanked me and so did his son.

Everyone is an individual. I never had a record collection when I was a kid. I listened to "Underground Radio". I never sat there trying to sound like someone else. It was more fun to me.

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Post subject: Re: Hendrix vs SRV
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:22 am
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you seem to be coming from a 'popular music only' perspective. In classical music, there is often the composer and the musicians, separately. I would imagine Mozart had some bad-ass violin players who were not innovative or original.

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