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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:27 am
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that modern rock now days what is played on mtv and fuse like i mean specificlly the rock genre now days is way (EDITED: no profanity on these forums, please --ForumAdmin) than what was a while go


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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:40 am
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alBjammin93 wrote:
that modern rock now days what is played on mtv and fuse like i mean specificlly the rock genre now days is way **** than what was a while go

You need to clean up your language on this forum. It is not permitted :evil:
Did you bother to read the rules!!


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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:46 am
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yeah i do, its all part of the way music has degraded over the years due to the likes of mtv and such.
to quote maybe the greatest thinker of modern music

Hi
Im your video dj
I always talk like Im wigged out on quaaludes
I wear a satin baseball jacket everywhere I go

My job is to help destroy
Whats left of your imagination
By feeding you endless doses
Of sugar-coated mindless garbage

So dont create
Be sedate
Be a vegetable at home
And thwack on that dial
If we have our way even you will believe
This is the future of rock and roll

How far will you go
How low will you stoop
To tranquilize our minds with your sugar-coated swill

Youve turned rock and roll rebellion
Into pat boone sedation
Making sure nothings left to the imagination

See the latest rejects from the muppet show
Wag their **** and their *****
As they lip-synch on screen
Theres something I dont like
About a band who always smiles
Another tax write-off
For some schmuck who doesnt care

Tin-eared
Graph-paper brained accountants
Instead of music fans
Call all the shots at giant record companies now
The lowest common denominator rules

Forget honesty
Forget creativity
The dumbest buy the mostest
Thats the name of the game

jello Biafra 1985

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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:53 am
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I think there is a huge range in music today. There are those acts that are identical to another act, and then there are new artists who are bringing something great to music.

I believe I've posted this before, but I'll do it again. It's from a blog entry I wrote about a month ago.

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I'm asked, and even criticised, quite often about my preference for "old" music, rather than modern music. In reality, however, I do not prefer one decade to another. There is an abundance of excellent music being produced today, by both new and established artists. The Internet is largely to thank for the popularity of it.

I was introduced to independent music (that's independently-financed, not "indie," which I still do not understand) last spring, when I met Gabriel Mann, Garrison Starr, Jay Nash, and Adrianne. There has always been a singer-songwriter movement in the United States, though in the past it was called "folk" and characterized by artists such as Bob Dylan. I also cannot ignore the presence of Johnny Cummings, a product of my own high school.

The singer-songwriter movement has renewed my faith in modern music. Through the artists I mentioned above, I became familiar with the works of other independent artists, such as Kyler England and Camilla Grey. Some of these independent artists are moving into the mainstream, for lack of a better term. I am not afraid to admit that I am in love with Sara Bareilles, a product of the Los Angeles clubs, who played and worked alongside Gabriel Mann. You may have heard of her, she has a huge radio hit called "Love Song."

I also believe that there is a second-coming of the British Invasion. It started in the sixties with groups such as The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, finally finding an audience in the United States that no other European acts had. The difference today, forty years later, is that the majority of the artists are women. The first, as far as I can tell, was KT Tunstall, who dazzled people by recording different tracks (on stage) and playing them to create a complete sound. That impressed people who could actually see her, at least. The people who only heard her were simply impressed with the music.

This may not have made a lot of sense, or answered any questions that people had, but, like a true musician, I wrote it at two in the morning. I have no aversion to modern music. I just don't like all of it, just as I don't like all "old" music. The main difference is that there are no radio stations dedicated to playing the songs of the sixties and seventies that everyone's forgotten about, they play the songs that have stood the test of time. Modern Top 40 stations are playing songs that are only months old, a great majority of them which will be forgotten months from now, let alone several decades.


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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:14 am
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fhopkins wrote:
alBjammin93 wrote:
that modern rock now days what is played on mtv and fuse like i mean specificlly the rock genre now days is way **** than what was a while go

You need to clean up your language on this forum. It is not permitted :evil:
Did you bother to read the rules!!


Sorry if I sounded too gruff. So welcome to the forum! :) and yes I agree.


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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:23 am
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your definatley correct, independent music and its rise to prominence through the Internet is a great thing, and using sites like myspace etc to promote themselves unknown bands can get some global recognition.
It's the other side of the coin. Record companies didn't want to know about bands with talent throughout the last 30 odd years. seeking instead to sign on saleability instead and are now reaping the rewards of their ignorance through the sales mega-slump they have suffered this last 8 years. Even the surge of acoustic/mainstream rock artists these last 4 years, its like they all came out of the same packet. depressed, depressing, whiney voiced plastic actors with a over sensitive disposition. Your far better off searching myspace for unknowns and buying directly from the artist. At least you know your not lining some company ceo's pockets and that the artist will see a fair ammount of the cash you paid for their product.

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your definatley correct, independent music and its rise to prominence through the Internet is a great thing, and using sites like myspace etc to promote themselves unknown bands can get some global recognition.
It's the other side of the coin. Record companies didn't want to know about bands with talent throughout the last 30 odd years. seeking instead to sign on saleability instead and are now reaping the rewards of their ignorance through the sales mega-slump they have suffered this last 8 years. Even the surge of acoustic/mainstream rock artists these last 4 years, its like they all came out of the same packet. depressed, depressing, whiney voiced plastic actors with a over sensitive disposition. Your far better off searching myspace for unknowns and buying directly from the artist. At least you know your not lining some company ceo's pockets and that the artist will see a fair ammount of the cash you paid for their product.


Absolutely right. I often hear far more talent in our local music scene here than I EVER hear on commercial radio right now. Does music today stink? Not at all. Does mainstream radio stink? TOTALLY.

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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:45 am
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What I've said, though, is that much of the "local talent" you see is now being picked up by record companies - Sara Bareilles is a perfect example.

Garrison Starr, however, was signed to Geffen and the dropped.


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Most of the stuff played on MTV fits a certain image, so most of it sounds the same. If you look around, there are PLENTY of great acts who continue to bring something new to the table. Sure there will always be the artists that are generic, run-of-the-mill, but they're seemingly making money because of what I think is a lack of opinion in choosing music for oneself. It seems as if pop radio and MTV feed the opinions to people and they don't contradict them at all. I think that if MTV purposely put a gag song on the air as their "number one video", people would eat it right up.

If you want some examples, like pohatu said, there are so many amazing unsigned bands out there. I sometimes browse myspace music pages to see if I can find some great bands. Also, look at bands like Radiohead and Muse. Both are doing some incredible stuff in terms of their music.


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you realize that every generation will be differinet, remember what parent's who lestend to swing thought when their kids started watching Elvis? one day the current generation will be sitting around lestening to our kids music, and shake our heads and think "wow, lesten to this crap, doesn't even compare to music in my day" then they'll do the same to their children. its the same cycle, people just don't see it.

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Barenaked Ladies is another great group that has remained fresh over the past twenty years.

They released a few independent tapes (this was the late 80s/early 90s), and then were signed and released six albums. They're now independent again and have released four more albums. You can listen to them all the way through, and it never gets repetitive.

In the mid-to-late-90s they had their biggest (American) mainstream hit, with "One Week."

Going through their catalog of songs, I can only pick out a few that I don't like. They range from folk and bluegrass to pure rock and roll.


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Most of the stuff played on MTV fits a certain image, so most of it sounds the same. If you look around, there are PLENTY of great acts who continue to bring something new to the table. Sure there will always be the artists that are generic, run-of-the-mill, but they're seemingly making money because of what I think is a lack of opinion in choosing music for oneself. It seems as if pop radio and MTV feed the opinions to people and they don't contradict them at all. I think that if MTV purposely put a gag song on the air as their "number one video", people would eat it right up.

If you want some examples, like pohatu said, there are so many amazing unsigned bands out there. I sometimes browse myspace music pages to see if I can find some great bands. Also, look at bands like Radiohead and Muse. Both are doing some incredible stuff in terms of their music.


MTV playing music again? It must be on one of their 'specialty' channels like MTV2, because I'm definitely not seeing it on 'regular' MTV, unless it's a background track. I don't receive MTV2. I definitely agree with Citizenerased, though.

The Disney Channel is a source of influence on 'popular/modern' music as well, apparently. I don't think that's a good thing. It seems to be just so much corporate 'cookie cutter' swill disguised as music to me.


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^ Occasionally flipping through the channels early in the morning I see a few videos. Otherwise, it's crappy "reality shows" or a video countdown where only 1% of the show is videos. Eh, the whole network makes me angry at the direction they're going. People seem to be eating it up though because they can't formulate their own opinion or disagree with pop culture/friends.


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citizenerased wrote:
^ Occasionally flipping through the channels early in the morning I see a few videos. Otherwise, it's crappy "reality shows" or a video countdown where only 1% of the show is videos. Eh, the whole network makes me angry at the direction they're going. People seem to be eating it up though because they can't formulate their own opinion or disagree with pop culture/friends.


I know the feeling. The only time VH1 even bothers to show full length videos (without some third-rate celebrity 'interpreting' them for me) is at 3AM CST. I'm not even sure that 'regular' MTV even does that. Fuse is an improvement, but unfortunately my cable company doesn't carry them, or any of the other specialty music channels that other people mention on the forum here.

Man, I miss '120 Minutes' and 'Alternative Nation', even 'Headbangers' Ball'. Those days are long gone, at least on 'regular' MTV. And no, I don't want to see reruns of those-I'm dying for some really new music that MTV used to be the premier venue for. I don't think that's happening soon, if ever.


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