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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:40 am
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How fast i can learn techniques like legato and synchronized my left hand with right ? It's possible to learn it in a year by every day practitng ? To be able to play fast ? I play about 1 year now.


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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:47 pm
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You can go a long way practicing in a year. Just do it consistently -- every day -- and keep adding new exercises into your routine.


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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:54 am
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I don't think there's a one size fits all when it comes to learning things. I suppose you can take out what you put into it. I've been playing for a little over 30 years, and only now I can do things that I couldn't do even just 5 years ago, but then again, there was a time when I lost a lot of confidence in myself, and I slacked. I had to get my head out of my arse and get back at it.

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:28 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
I don't think there's a one size fits all when it comes to learning things. I suppose you can take out what you put into it. I've been playing for a little over 30 years, and only now I can do things that I couldn't do even just 5 years ago, but then again, there was a time when I lost a lot of confidence in myself, and I slacked. I had to get my head out of my arse and get back at it.

True that. You can do a lot of practicing and not really get anywhere if you aren't doing it the right way. I've been playing the guitar off-and-on since the early 90s, and I've probably experienced my greatest growth as a player in the last 6 or 7 years. For me, I think the keys have been: 1) consistent, daily practice (even if it's only for a few minutes at a time), 2) focusing on the specific skills and techniques I wanted to learn, 3) challenging myself with new exercises and songs (not just playing the same bunch of riffs and chord progressions I learned back in high school), 4) practicing with a metronome, and, 5) playing with others when possible.


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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:41 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
I don't think there's a one size fits all when it comes to learning things. I suppose you can take out what you put into it. I've been playing for a little over 30 years, and only now I can do things that I couldn't do even just 5 years ago, but then again, there was a time when I lost a lot of confidence in myself, and I slacked. I had to get my head out of my arse and get back at it.

Ditto.
There are so many factors that it's impossible to say.
First and foremost, is natural ability. Some people are simply more coordinated, or have a better natural ear. Some people will NEVER be able to learn guitar, just as I could never learn drums because I can not coordinate 4 limbs to do different things at the same time... like rubbing your belly and patting your head.

Then there is intellectual maturity. You may get into a rut and never think you will improve, then suddenly, like a light bulb turning on, something will "click" and a new concept is instantly something you can comprehend and work with to grow from. It may be due to exposing yourself to a different style of music.

"Playing fast" is not the end-all-be-all of being a talented guitarist. Playing fast is not hard, and can be mastered in a few months.
WHAT to play is the hard part. Whether you are writing your own part, or trying to transcribe something from an album. The real talent is in the creation of the work. Outside of some of the neo-classical forms, very little in recorded music is actually "hard"... and some successful musicians such as Neil Young, and even Tony Iommi, are actually very grass-roots and basic.

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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:48 pm
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Rich:
You took the words out of my mouth, I can totally relate.


I was formally trained on percussion. Sometimes, either by desire or need we want to jump in before doing the basics. Practicing can be boring. I think, perhaps, less so today as there are far more ways and means to do it. I agree with those who suggest adding new exercises, and that should take away some boredom which can be a killer in confidence. There may always be something that you won’t succeed In either mentally or physically. On the other hand, you’ll appreciate what you’ll discover and find that you can excel in.

For a little over a month, I was taught to artificially bounce (not hit) a stick on a pillow to build up my wrists and to control the stick position as well as my grip. You can imagine my thoughts on that. Even a practice pad would have made sense. How could I play like Keith Moon or Buddy Rich this way? Well, 54 years later, I still can’t. What I have done over the years is a long way from that pillow.

In fact it was some time before a light went on to help me wrap up with gusto on the traps. I never looked back. Even today, those lights turn on when least expected, This holds true both with my guitars. and my drums. and somewhat in keyboard. If only all those lights would turn on I’d be good to go. I’m just not plugged in, often because I’m not aware of the switch or I can’t find it and, having worked with thousands of dollars of complicated professional audio/video gear under time restraints, I know full control and understanding comes (and goes) in stages. I don’t know about you, but I have so many pieces of gear around the house that never gets all the attention (sometimes from lack of understanding, need, or activity). That’s where practice comes in. Pretty much the same idea.

Rich put it nicely when he said, “very little in recorded music is actually "hard"... and some successful musicians such as Neil Young, and even Tony Iommi, are actually very grass-roots and basic.” Bob Dylan once said that Link Wray’s “Rumble” was his choice of best instrumental. Others would disagree, but there is a point to be made. His song choice there is pretty basic. You’ll do just fine and soon you’ll find your comfort zone. Whatever you do, enjoy the journey because every learning step will be a big step from where you started, krucopalo. :D

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