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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:27 pm
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I was leafing through some Clapton tabs, and noticed that many are very easy, yet it is very hard to play the way he does. He does not need ridiculous speed for a great song... Anyways, I'm a big Clapton fan, anyone else here?

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Some of his stuff does seem to be pretty easy on paper, but the way in which he bends the notes and such makes it a bit more complicated. Either way, a great guitarist who himself and his many projects put together some memorable songs.


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Some of his stuff does seem to be pretty easy on paper, but the way in which he bends the notes and such makes it a bit more complicated. Either way, a great guitarist who himself and his many projects put together some memorable songs.

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I read somewhere that Freddie King was his idol. If that is the sound that he was striving for, it makes sense that his playing is "simpler" and more lyrical than some others. When I listen to the Bluesbreakers album that he's on, I tink, "That's simple enough, I can do that." Then I keep listening and realize that no, he's one of the only plyers who can do that.


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I read somewhere that Freddie King was his idol. If that is the sound that he was striving for, it makes sense that his playing is "simpler" and more lyrical than some others. When I listen to the Bluesbreakers album that he's on, I tink, "That's simple enough, I can do that." Then I keep listening and realize that no, he's one of the only plyers who can do that.


Huge Clapton fan since seeing him with Cream in the late 60's. The "Beano" album with Mayall and Clapton (and Fleetwood Mac's John McVie on bass) is a great album, in my opinion. The song, "Little Girl" has a really nice ascending solo. I've since seen him 3 other times and all of the shows that I've seen were truly amazing. 8)

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Mike, that's awesome that you've been able to see him live. I would like to, but he doesn't end up in the northwest too often.

I like his newer stuff well enough, but I love the Derek and the Dominos album. There must be something about being depressed to the point that you're about to lauch into a hard battle with drugs and alcohol that brings out the best in your blues playing...


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Mike, that's awesome that you've been able to see him live. I would like to, but he doesn't end up in the northwest too often.

I like his newer stuff well enough, but I love the Derek and the Dominos album. There must be something about being depressed to the point that you're about to lauch into a hard battle with drugs and alcohol that brings out the best in your blues playing...


bluegrass, he's never failed to amaze! If you get VH1 Classic, they've been running a special and he's been on from London with John Mayer, Robert Randolph and he does two sets, one starts with "Tell The Truth" then a little later starts with "Layla" (original version) and he sounds fine as wine in the summertime. :wink:

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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:02 pm
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italianjunkie wrote:
I was leafing through some Clapton tabs, and noticed that many are very easy, yet it is very hard to play the way he does. He does not need ridiculous speed for a great song... Anyways, I'm a big Clapton fan, anyone else here?


Somewhere on another thread, I spoke of what I've noted, after careful observation, about how he uses his left hand. Tabs are only the transcriber's effort at transposing audio onto paper. It does not take into consideration the player's virtuosity.

I suggest that, if your curiosity ixs piqued, you acquire as much video as you can, and spend a great deal of time on 'slow'.

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bluesgrass wrote:
I read somewhere that Freddie King was his idol. If that is the sound that he was striving for, it makes sense that his playing is "simpler" and more lyrical than some others. When I listen to the Bluesbreakers album that he's on, I tink, "That's simple enough, I can do that." Then I keep listening and realize that no, he's one of the only plyers who can do that.


Actually, I think Robert Johnson was an even bigger idol of his.

Clapton's album, "Me and Mr. Johnson", reflects this and shows where a lot of his inspiration comes from.

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I'm a huge fan of Clapton, I like alot of his songs. I think "Crossroads" was a very good tune. This was first performed by Robert Johnson. The way I understand it, Crossroads was a tribute to Johnson(also one of his idols). Anyway you probably dont need a history lesson, but a huge fan I am!
His tab does look easy, But Whew that guy can play! I agree with zzdoc!
If you havent already seen it, try the Crossroads DVD. It's chocked full of great artists! Alot of Clapton's songs are improvised(as he tends to do)and all are something to see. 8)


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bluesgrass wrote:
Mike, that's awesome that you've been able to see him live. I would like to, but he doesn't end up in the northwest too often.

I like his newer stuff well enough, but I love the Derek and the Dominos album. There must be something about being depressed to the point that you're about to lauch into a hard battle with drugs and alcohol that brings out the best in your blues playing...


.......yeah!!...and it does wonders for your surgery too!!! Have you read his autobio?? Wonder how much more productive he might have been had he not been a slave to his addictions. Don't buy that Timothy Leary subjectivistic crap about 'enhancement'. Ask yourself how well your pilot might perform in like circumstances the next time you fly.

No need to ask what my experiences were 40 years ago. Been there, done that!

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One more thing.....do some research into the history of the 'Layla" sessions, which would include the DVD available on producer Tom Dowd's life (he was a budding Ph.D. student in physics at Columbia University when WWII and the Manhattan Project changed his life. It's ironic that contemporary music history owes a debt to the attack on Pearl Harbor. )

I digress....those guys were so strung out its a miracle they finished the work.

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I have been to alot of concerts in my 38 years.I mean alot. I've seen the Dead alone about 30-40 some odd times,and a whole mess in between. I saw Clapton in '90 on the Journeyman tour and just saw him a month or so ago at one of the casinos here in Ct. But let me tell you I was fortunate enough to be on the floor at Madison Square Garden in Feb. for one of the shows with Steve Winwood and it was literally like a religious experience of a show.I really left there with my jaw on the floor.Eric swaggers out so unassumeing with his Strat dangeling off his shoulder and just blew the roof off the place.And I agree listening to him I think big deal 12 bar blues,penatonic scales I can do this,Yeah right needless to say yeah right.He is just amazing.Deffinately my favorite.I've been saturateing myself with Clapton especialy Crossroads 2 Live in the '70s.And if you dont own Cream from the Royal Albert Hall in '05 get it.That Stormy Monday on the is mind blowing.Back to the Garden Shows,youtube Little Wing and Voodoo Clile absolutely amazing.I think he just gets better.Oh dont get me started on Clapton :D


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I didn't discover Clapton until Cream came out. One of the things I've noticed from watching him in videos and DVDs is that he spends a lot of time playing at the bottom of the fretboard under the 15th fret. None of my Strats have the shaved heel and I don't have those long fingers so I know why I can't play a lot of his stuff.


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stratmansteve wrote:
I didn't discover Clapton until Cream came out. One of the things I've noticed from watching him in videos and DVDs is that he spends a lot of time playing at the bottom of the fretboard under the 15th fret. None of my Strats have the shaved heel and I don't have those long fingers so I know why I can't play a lot of his stuff.


There ya go......and neither do you know his setup, or what it is electronically that makes that guitar sing and sustain the way it does. Dewie, if a real student of Erics, knows how that tone has evolved over forty years from Mayall through to the present. We have done a lot here with respect for the quest for tone and there are more things under the sun, Horatio.......that we do not know about or ever suspect.

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