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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:20 am
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ok, please listn/read. if you know the minor pentatonic scale and you think you are good to go, that is like moving to another country , learning how to speak in the present tense and thiking you're all set. not really. Most blues and classic rock lead guitar [ Clapton, HENDRIX, Freddy King] is slillfully ALTERNATING BETWEEN THE MAJOR AND MINOR PENTATONICS. that is what those guys are doing. Allman Bros. ? mostly major pentatomic. if you are in a classic rock band and trying to solo over a song with VI chor in it, with the minor pentatoni, other musicians are laughing at you. [perhaps someone in your band] If you haven't copped 5 Clapton solos and 5 Freddy King solos, analyzed them [easy, 2 scales] and played each one along with the cd 20 times, I invite you to raise your personal standards, get to work, and get in the game. the rewards are great. real good self expression AND CHICKS LOVE THE ERIC CLAPTON STYLE. [ gotta get a real good vibrato goin ] Do it. encourage your friend to do it. start today. I'm sick of hearing this. piano players know music. sax players know music. how come guitar players don't know music ? do it. don't give up. then you'll have it. like ridin a bike. Slam


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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:36 am
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ok, please listn/read. if you know the minor pentatonic scale and you think you are good to go, that is like moving to another country , learning how to speak in the present tense and thiking you're all set. not really. Most blues and classic rock lead guitar [ Clapton, HENDRIX, Freddy King] is slillfully ALTERNATING BETWEEN THE MAJOR AND MINOR PENTATONICS. that is what those guys are doing. Allman Bros. ? mostly major pentatomic. if you are in a classic rock band and trying to solo over a song with VI chor in it, with the minor pentatoni, other musicians are laughing at you. [perhaps someone in your band] If you haven't copped 5 Clapton solos and 5 Freddy King solos, analyzed them [easy, 2 scales] and played each one along with the cd 20 times, I invite you to raise your personal standards, get to work, and get in the game. the rewards are great. real good self expression AND CHICKS LOVE THE ERIC CLAPTON STYLE. [ gotta get a real good vibrato goin ] Do it. encourage your friend to do it. start today. I'm sick of hearing this. piano players know music. sax players know music. how come guitar players don't know music ? do it. don't give up. then you'll have it. like ridin a bike. Slam


What are you talking about?

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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:39 am
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Well, most guitar players are lazy. They figure they can plays lots of pentatonic rock/pop songs - so they're rock stars and don't need to learn anything else.

Also, you'll hear many guitar players that only play one style, then snub or trash other styles, usually because they can't play anything else.

Some guitar players can't play much of anything except "their own" stuff, so they label themselves as "jazz" players. Which usually means some very abstract noise with a few jazzy chords thrown in.


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Well, most guitar players are lazy. They figure they can plays lots of pentatonic rock/pop songs - so they're rock stars and don't need to learn anything else.

Also, you'll hear many guitar players that only play one style, then snub or trash other styles, usually because they can't play anything else.

Some guitar players can't play much of anything except "their own" stuff, so they label themselves as "jazz" players. Which usually means some very abstract noise with a few jazzy chords thrown in.


Lots of truth in that, dgonz!

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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:46 am
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ok, please listn/read. if you know the minor pentatonic scale and you think you are good to go, that is like moving to another country , learning how to speak in the present tense and thiking you're all set. not really. Most blues and classic rock lead guitar [ Clapton, HENDRIX, Freddy King] is slillfully ALTERNATING BETWEEN THE MAJOR AND MINOR PENTATONICS. that is what those guys are doing. Allman Bros. ? mostly major pentatomic. if you are in a classic rock band and trying to solo over a song with VI chor in it, with the minor pentatoni, other musicians are laughing at you. [perhaps someone in your band] If you haven't copped 5 Clapton solos and 5 Freddy King solos, analyzed them [easy, 2 scales] and played each one along with the cd 20 times, I invite you to raise your personal standards, get to work, and get in the game. the rewards are great. real good self expression AND CHICKS LOVE THE ERIC CLAPTON STYLE. [ gotta get a real good vibrato goin ] Do it. encourage your friend to do it. start today. I'm sick of hearing this. piano players know music. sax players know music. how come guitar players don't know music ? do it. don't give up. then you'll have it. like ridin a bike. Slam


What are you talking about?


I'm a little confused about this post also.

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Post subject: Re: pentatonic scales
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:16 am
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Perhaps he's reasoning that some guitar players are content with sticking to a blues based format and not reaching beyond.

My response to that is, each to his own, in his own time.

The writer must appreciate that guitar has more reincarnations than anyone lifetime would allow a serious student to pursue and that the emotional satisfaction obtained from bending one note at the right moment can substitute for a millenia of serious study.

Many of our greatest influences have built bench marks on nothing but I-IV-V, and who are we to criticize, when their gifts have given us motivation and brought such satisfaction to our lives.

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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:01 pm
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zzdoc wrote:
Perhaps he's reasoning that some guitar players are content with sticking to a blues based format and not reaching beyond.

My response to that is, each to his own, in his own time.

The writer must appreciate that guitar has more reincarnations than anyone lifetime would allow a serious student to pursue and that the emotional satisfaction obtained from bending one note at the right moment can substitute for a millenia of serious study.

Many of our greatest influences have built bench marks on nothing but I-IV-V, and who are we to criticize, when their gifts have given us motivation and brought such satisfaction to our lives.

Doc :wink:


Well, I know......I'm going to play what I like to play, and I don't think I'm going to reach out to Punk-type music (to each his own), anytime soon. Each person likes his own kind of music. For me....it's blues and rock. I can't imagine myself playing flamingo......"just because".

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Eh, who really cares what I play? As long as I'm satisfied with what I'm doing, it's fine. I'm not going out and playing any festivals here anytime soon. What I can do sounds good, so I'll keep building on it.


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ok, please listn/read. if you know the minor pentatonic scale and you think you are good to go, that is like moving to another country , learning how to speak in the present tense and thiking you're all set. not really. Most blues and classic rock lead guitar [ Clapton, HENDRIX, Freddy King] is slillfully ALTERNATING BETWEEN THE MAJOR AND MINOR PENTATONICS. that is what those guys are doing. Allman Bros. ? mostly major pentatomic. if you are in a classic rock band and trying to solo over a song with VI chor in it, with the minor pentatoni, other musicians are laughing at you. [perhaps someone in your band] If you haven't copped 5 Clapton solos and 5 Freddy King solos, analyzed them [easy, 2 scales] and played each one along with the cd 20 times, I invite you to raise your personal standards, get to work, and get in the game. the rewards are great. real good self expression AND CHICKS LOVE THE ERIC CLAPTON STYLE. [ gotta get a real good vibrato goin ] Do it. encourage your friend to do it. start today. I'm sick of hearing this. piano players know music. sax players know music. how come guitar players don't know music ? do it. don't give up. then you'll have it. like ridin a bike. Slam


I think he is saying that if you haven't tried this do so as the rewards are worth it.

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ok, please listn/read. if you know the minor pentatonic scale and you think you are good to go, that is like moving to another country , learning how to speak in the present tense and thiking you're all set. not really. Most blues and classic rock lead guitar [ Clapton, HENDRIX, Freddy King] is slillfully ALTERNATING BETWEEN THE MAJOR AND MINOR PENTATONICS. that is what those guys are doing. Allman Bros. ? mostly major pentatomic. if you are in a classic rock band and trying to solo over a song with VI chor in it, with the minor pentatoni, other musicians are laughing at you. [perhaps someone in your band] If you haven't copped 5 Clapton solos and 5 Freddy King solos, analyzed them [easy, 2 scales] and played each one along with the cd 20 times, I invite you to raise your personal standards, get to work, and get in the game. the rewards are great. real good self expression AND CHICKS LOVE THE ERIC CLAPTON STYLE. [ gotta get a real good vibrato goin ] Do it. encourage your friend to do it. start today. I'm sick of hearing this. piano players know music. sax players know music. how come guitar players don't know music ? do it. don't give up. then you'll have it. like ridin a bike. Slam


I think he is saying that if you haven't tried this do so as the rewards are worth it.


Yeah, it's probably new and exciting to him.

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I think he is saying that if you haven't tried this do so as the rewards are worth it.[/quote]

In part, perhaps. However, I sense a far more critical tone here.

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:twisted: well if you can get away with being a proffesional and only knowing the Bmajor and the Gminor scale, hell and a couple of power chords, and you look hot, man thats the life


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:twisted: well if you can get away with being a proffesional and only knowing the Bmajor and the Gminor scale, hell and a couple of power chords, and you look hot, man thats the life


Most of the world's seminal bluesmen did just that and more..............

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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:57 am
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ok, please listn/read. if you know the minor pentatonic scale and you think you are good to go, that is like moving to another country , learning how to speak in the present tense and thiking you're all set. not really. Most blues and classic rock lead guitar [ Clapton, HENDRIX, Freddy King] is slillfully ALTERNATING BETWEEN THE MAJOR AND MINOR PENTATONICS. that is what those guys are doing. Allman Bros. ? mostly major pentatomic. if you are in a classic rock band and trying to solo over a song with VI chor in it, with the minor pentatoni, other musicians are laughing at you. [perhaps someone in your band] If you haven't copped 5 Clapton solos and 5 Freddy King solos, analyzed them [easy, 2 scales] and played each one along with the cd 20 times, I invite you to raise your personal standards, get to work, and get in the game. the rewards are great. real good self expression AND CHICKS LOVE THE ERIC CLAPTON STYLE. [ gotta get a real good vibrato goin ] Do it. encourage your friend to do it. start today. I'm sick of hearing this. piano players know music. sax players know music. how come guitar players don't know music ? do it. don't give up. then you'll have it. like ridin a bike. Slam

I think all he is saying is that you need to use major and minor pentatonics when you play blues. That's why he uses Clapton and Freddie King as examples. I know it revolutionized the world for me when I figured out Clapton and Freddie King were going back and forth between minor and major.

Too bad we needed to "translate" the original post. ;)

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