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Post subject: ALASKA EARTHQUAKE
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:55 am
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William T Cummings, a Charter Member of the Forums has been living in the Anchorage, Alaska area for several years now. His area took quite a hit and he's shared photos of the badly road around the corner from him, similiar to what you may have seen on the news. Facebook Forum friends asked if he need any help from us and he responded as follows:

No sir I appreciate the offer. I seem to have came through it for the most part unscathed. There doesn’t appear to be any structural damage of the house, and save for some toppled furniture in some broken items I got off quite well. There are many that have lost much more. I will say our biggest issue right now is transportation, as many main thorough fare‘s Have been severely damaged as well as our one highway that is our link from Anchorage to the rest of the state by ground. Feel free to send prayers and well wishes to the many still without power or those with severe damage to property. The current count of aftershocks last I checked was over five hundred. Been one hell of a day.

Give my love and thanks to all our forum brothers and Sisters for thinking of us up here. ❤️

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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:53 am
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Thanks for posting Doc. I was thinking about 00cummings aka William T.. Good to know he is alright.

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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:39 pm
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Thanks for posting Doc. I was thinking about 00cummings aka William T.. Good to know he is alright.


Any man who can hunt down a moose, butcher it and prepare in in a variety of different ways to last an entire Alaskan winter deserves that 'Double O". 8)

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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:55 pm
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Wow, glad to hear he’s ok Doc.


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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:02 pm
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ZZDoc wrote:
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Thanks for posting Doc. I was thinking about 00cummings aka William T.. Good to know he is alright.


Any man who can hunt down a moose, butcher it and prepare in in a variety of different ways to last an entire Alaskan winter deserves that 'Double O". 8)

Doc, you've got that right. :D

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Post subject: Re: ALASKA EARTHQUAKE
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:33 am
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March 27, 1964 a 9.2 earthquake (the strongest in USA history) 75 miles east of Anchorage rattled the west coast. It had been measured all the way down to Mexico. Sadly, 130 lives were lost and the tsunami was a factor.

It moved me sitting in a club chair at home from one side of the living room to the other side, and that was on Vancouver Island! It shook Anchorage for 4 1/2 minutes! :shock: My parents were visiting a couple of miles from me and my kid brother. They felt nothing.

In the 90s my prairie wife slept beside me while the old single pane windows reflected movement before a bang occurred with an earthquake. It would have been her first and, my not wanting to wake and scare her, she missed it. We now say Mrs. FSB can sleep through an earthquake.

That and being no stranger to quakes, having lived on the Ring Of Fire and a fault line that ran over to Washington, and fortunately minor tsunamis, it makes me humble, and respectful, with a pinch of fear for those shakers, so I feel for you William, and I am glad you survived the worst of it; although, I know you must have some issues to tackle.

Your 7.0 quake is particularly alarming as I read some concern over fracking being related to your quake. Whether that is true or not, there is a lot of surrounding disturbance lately that raises an eyebrow.

Just 120 miles to the west off Vancouver Island, BC 3 earthquakes ( two at 6.5 and one at 6.8 ) struck this past Sunday, Dec. 2/18. Those are just a few of the hundreds that leave their mark each year from nearby land and sea. These were within a 49 minute period of each other. No damage to the sparsely populated area, and tsunamis are always being monitored. Debris from Japan’s quakes and tsunamis end up on our shoreline, sometimes months later, and interestingly a beached motorcycle was found and returned a few years back after the owner was tracked down.

I sometimes think of tornadoes and quakes with similarity in that you never know when or where they will strike, you can’t run or hide, and you are at their mercy if you live in the zone. Keep vigilant and safe William, our thoughts and prayers are with you all in that great land of yours. Perhaps, Mother Nature has had enough actitvity to put her, you and yours to rest at least for sometime. :wink:
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Post subject: Re: ALASKA EARTHQUAKE
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:53 pm
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With family in Bellevue, WA, my concerns about the Cascadia Subduction zone is sharpened, particularly, as with San Andreas and Yellowstone, we are in their time frames of expectation. At least tornadoes give science the opportunity to observe the dynamics of weather systems in motion in real time. Certain parameters of fault systems can be monitored but, unlike tornadoes, the precise moment that a locked fault system will release is yet to be known. I remember the ‘64 quake and decades later spent a night Crescent City, having dinner at a restaurant which had been ravaged by the resultant tsunami, photos on the walls telling the story. Four trips to Mount St. Helens bearing witness to The Ring of Fire being alive and well in North America.

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Post subject: Re: ALASKA EARTHQUAKE
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:06 pm
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Thanks, for telling your experience, Doc. I know that area well having grown up with the boating community and the short ferry ride from our inner harbour that docks in Port Angeles and Victoria. Out there it’s like being American/Canadian brothers and sisters rather than just good neighbours.

I’ve been going to Yellowstone since my youth and sharing it with my family on my wife’s side. I remember pulling into a hotel late one very dark night in west Yellowstone, and later the next morning I discovered it was where the ground sunk and heaved substantially where our parking lot was considerably lower than originally built. That park is just a matter of time to put a heap lot of hurt on us. It’s only when that leaves question. I certainly don’t want to be a tourist when it happens.

You are so right about the Cascades, and we often admired Mount Baker from our balcony. I never saw Mt. St. Helens; but, here in Winnipeg, half a continent away the ash rose, followed the jet stream, and dumped on Winnipeg where we had to be careful with paint jobs, cleaning filters, breathing, and so on. It took awhile to get here, but get here it did. Add Canada’s largest tornado - an F5 in farmland outside the city in 2007. Until that occurrence close to the city twisters were few and far between. Before that most were twisters on one of our 100,000 lakes, or close to the North Dakota/Minnesota border or next door in Saskatchewan. Since then we have been officially added to Tornado Alley, and sensors and alarms are now part of the system.

Yep! You can run but you can’t hide. :roll:
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:07 pm
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On a clear day one can see Mount Baker from the north-facing kitchen window of my son's home high on a hillside in the Bellevue community of Lakemont. Can't possible predict how the slippage of the Cascadia would affect property east of Lake Washington, but the science I've been watching definitely involves the length of it off the coast. As for Yellowstone, I'm sure you're aware that not being a tourist in that area would be any saving grace should Yellowstone's magma chamber blow. You're talking about a signficant near-existential event affecting the entire United States and countries beyond for years. Review your history regarding Krakatau in 1883, and Tambora in 1815 [the year without a summer] as well as the Lake Toba eruption 75000 years ago which paleoanthropologists say was nearly responsible for an extinction event for humanity. P.S. the plus for Western culture in 1815 was that the cold weather kept Mary Shelly indoors with her friends telling ghost stories one evening and from that she wrote 'Frankenstein' or 'The Modern Prometheus' as it was titled.

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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:00 pm
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It must be beautiful where your son lives, Doc. Most of those areas are.

You are right. I am well aware of the enormity of disaster that Yellowstone holds in her toolbox. So too am I aware of the shakeup going on beneath the ocean. Many are not aware, including many locals, that one example of concern is that Vancouver Island is like a V sitting atop an inverted V, and there are many reasons why that isn’t ideal. :wink:
I think Hawaii is at a bigger risk, however; but that is a tough call. San Francisco and Los Angeles are still standing, but they bear battle scars as does Anchorage. Maybe, some other direction will occur just like coral can rebuild certain islands that are reported to be sinking with water levels rising (not so much with man made structures).

Krakatau I knew of, a little of Tambora, and about the same of Lake Toba (must have missed that in my many years of subscribed National Geographics). :lol: I brushed up as you suggested. :P

History shows a great amount or a little amount of time before these events occur. How close we are to these events is an estimate at best; although, we are getting better with the data. All I know is that Mother Earth is pretty angry these days, and her mood can change. So much for many of the predictions. That sort of reminds me of economics and polls scientifically proven to fail in the long run.

Your Mary Shelley connection was a nice segue. I’m glad she was cold for that masterpiece.

We’re all richer for it.

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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:24 am
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I think Hawaii is at a bigger risk, however; but that is a tough call. FSB


I've been following volcanoes nearly 7 decades now, and know Hawaii well. I spent three days on Kilauea in 2003, overnighting at Volcano House, on my bucket list for years. That SE rift zone which erupted across the past 8 mos was a known quantity with similar events across the past 50+ years as far as recent activity and going way back. The SE/SW rift zones are the major surface activity locations for Kilauea's plumbing. The summit's had its fiery moments but no caldera overflowing into the park in general. The village of Volcano is stll standing. Nobody in their right mind should have been allowed to develop the rift zones or set down roots going forward. Now Pele's taken back that entire SE/NE corner of the island. I have mixed feelings about those folks and their lot in life. I believe the way the laws are written, the Feds own the old land, and the state anything new that Pele creates or vice verse. I have to recheck that. They should make it part of the National Park and leave it be.

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. . . Now Pele's taken back that entire SE/NE corner of the island. I have mixed feelings about those folks and their lot in life. I believe the way the laws are written, the Feds own the old land, and the state anything new that Pele creates or vice verse. I have to recheck that. They should make it part of the National Park and leave it be.
Agreed. However, living below a volcano or on a fault line obviously gives a historical false sense of security that is grasped by others always not in a good way, I suppose. Ir’s like taking that below decks rust boat cruise without enough lifeboats. However, everything looks nice on the surface. :wink:
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. . . Now Pele's taken back that entire SE/NE corner of the island. I have mixed feelings about those folks and their lot in life. I believe the way the laws are written, the Feds own the old land, and the state anything new that Pele creates or vice verse. I have to recheck that. They should make it part of the National Park and leave it be.
Agreed. However, living below a volcano or on a fault line obviously gives a historical false sense of security that is grasped by others always not in a good way, I suppose. Ir’s like taking that below decks rust boat cruise without enough lifeboats. However, everything looks nice on the surface. :wink:
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Co- incidently just heard from HVO on Hawaii. Private land covered by lava belongs to owner. Newly created land, like extended shoreline, belongs to the state, unless part of a national park, then it reverts to the park service.

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. . . Now Pele's taken back that entire SE/NE corner of the island. I have mixed feelings about those folks and their lot in life. I believe the way the laws are written, the Feds own the old land, and the state anything new that Pele creates or vice verse. I have to recheck that. They should make it part of the National Park and leave it be.
Agreed. However, living below a volcano or on a fault line obviously gives a historical false sense of security that is grasped by others always not in a good way, I suppose. Ir’s like taking that below decks rust boat cruise without enough lifeboats. However, everything looks nice on the surface. :wink:
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Co- incidently just heard from HVO on Hawaii. Private land covered by lava belongs to owner. Newly created land, like extended shoreline, belongs to the state, unless part of a national park, then it reverts to the park service.

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ZZDoc wrote:
. . . Now Pele's taken back that entire SE/NE corner of the island. I have mixed feelings about those folks and their lot in life. I believe the way the laws are written, the Feds own the old land, and the state anything new that Pele creates or vice verse. I have to recheck that. They should make it part of the National Park and leave it be.
Agreed. However, living below a volcano or on a fault line obviously gives a historical false sense of security that is grasped by others always not in a good way, I suppose. Ir’s like taking that below decks rust boat cruise without enough lifeboats. However, everything looks nice on the surface. :wink:
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Co- incidently just heard from HVO on Hawaii. Private land covered by lava belongs to owner. Newly created land, like extended shoreline, belongs to the state, unless part of a national park, then it reverts to the park service.
Thanks, for the clarification, Doc. That is interesting. I’m guessing some farming, land or sea, is involved and, perhaps, indigenous concerns. Of course, once the territory becomes a National Park revenue and funding changes hands.

Here in Canada, the town of Banff is much different than originally thought of. Still a great place if you can handle the commercialism that has taken over a National Park. On one hand you have the Rocky Mountains, on the other you have the Golden Arches, and yet I see Arches would be okay in Utah. :P
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