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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:29 pm
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SpaceX deserves credit for their excellent accomplishments. A little history on how it all began with a limited budget. Perhaps, some of the earlier pioneers migrated to SpaceX and elsewhere. Regardless, it makes a lot of sense to do a vertical landing like the LEM. It’s all like the old Sci-FI movies.



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SpaceX deserves credit for their excellent accomplishments. A little history on how it all began with a limited budget. Perhaps, some of the earlier pioneers migrated to SpaceX and elsewhere. Regardless, it makes a lot of sense to do a vertical landing like the LEM. It’s all like the old Sci-FI movies. FSB

Nice follow up video, FSB. Thanks

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I'll tell you my one and only experience that I can not brush off (in my head) as "my mind playing tricks on me" or "hallucination" or "man made" or "folklore/urban legend" or anything other than I saw what I saw.

I was working on a relatives recently purchased home (this was in the early 90's); I was 100% sober, sane, and had nothing on my mind other than the work I was there to do.
I was tearing out plaster & lathe walls to replace with insulation and fresh sheet-rock. Out of the corner of my eye, I see the figure of a woman in full wedding dress, hat, and veil moving south to north in the kitchen from the back door/basement access area, through the cupboards on the north wall, into the wall, to an area under the steps that go upstairs (2nd. level); a space that has no access from either outside, inside, or even the basement.
Needless to say; it freaked me out.
I told my Brother-In-Law (working in another room) about it, and it freaked him out too...because apparently he saw something unexplainable the night before (and brushed it off until my encounter) and we decided to get the hell out of there, and only work on the place in the day time.
He and his family lived there for a couple years, and in that time his wife, and two daughters all had their own experiences...and we never mentioned ANYTHING about our experiences to any of them.

So yes; I believe in ghosts.

As for aliens from other planets...I've never encountered...but like others have stated, it seems like I can't allow myself to think that we (humans/mammals from earth) could be the only living forms in the Galaxy.


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gyroscopes have been around for a long time, and yes vertical landings have been performed before.

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The neat part is delivering a load into SPACE and then landing THAT rocket. That sets apart a good idea and a full execution of a good idea.


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All of this stuff is interesting. The most interesting/promising supernatural rumor i've heard is...... John John is alive. When his plane went down I said no way. He was an intelligent guy and intelligent guys don't crash their planes without a very good reason.

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All of this stuff is interesting. The most interesting/promising supernatural rumor i've heard is...... John John is alive. When his plane went down I said no way. He was an intelligent guy and intelligent guys don't crash their planes without a very good reason.


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If the all-knowing Wikipedia oracle is correct, these are the facts about JFK Jr's crash:

-He was an experienced pilot, but he was not qualified to fly his plane by "instruments only".

-The crash occurred in conditions not legally requiring such qualification.

-Other pilots besides Kennedy flying similar routes on the night of the accident reported no visual horizon due to haze.

Sometimes you hear about an event like this and one detail will just scream out at you. You should always pay attention to that.

They left Essex NJ and traveled towards Martha's Vineyard in MA. He travels almost all the way to the destination, and then loses track of the ground just 7 miles from the shore, but still over the water. It proves nothing but it's just such an odd thing that it would happen that way.

Has anyone ever faked their death and then lived on? I would bet on it, and IMO it can only be done long term if you have lots of money.


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Interesting link Mike. There are several Q reporters but Q has been missing for a few days. So has Julian Assange. Is Vincent F. our guy? Who knows. If John John is alive I just want him to stay safe.

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:40 am
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These topics are very interesting.

As to UFO's and their pilots being extra-terrestrials, I gave that notion up years ago after reading the works of Jacques Vallee and John Keel. Make no mistake....UFO's are real, people are seeing things and experiencing contact, but this activity has been going on since thousands of years. They are not aliens from other planets but something "other"

Another something "other" is Bigfoot. This is a study that hits close to home and I am friends with a major Bigfoot researcher and author in this topic. My home is not far from Fouke Arkansas, and if you lived through the early 1970's you may have seen the film "The Legend of Boggy Creek" at a drive in. I have been to this area many times. I live in a very rural Parish (aka county, in Louisiana we do not have Counties but Parishes, but its the same thing) we have had numerous Bigfoot sightings in this sparsely populated area. I have read extensively on this subject and believe these creatures are not natural mammals like a bear, coyote, deer etc. They display habits and abilities that surpass explanation. If you want to read some good scary accounts about Bigfoot go to the BFRO website and enjoy the entries you will find there from all over North America. YOu can reach your own conclusions.

As to ghosts, I have never experienced any manifestation but my brother did and This is his story:

My brother is very scientifically oriented and not given to "making up" stuff. It was January 2007, my mother was dying and in the last stages. My brother flew down from Idaho to Baton Rouge to see her the last time. Their relationship had always been difficult and when the end comes those type relationships are even more awkward. Any way my brother elected to stay with a friend and his girlfriend in New Orleans and drive to Baton rouge to visit Mom in the Hospital. His friend recently bought the house in New Orleans from the children of a deceased widow.

One evening my brother and his friend were having a supper at his friends home. The kitchen was separated from the dining room by a sit down bar where you could sit on something akin to a bar stool and eat. My brother was actually seated in the kitchen facing the dining room and his friend on the opposite side seated in the dining room facing the kitchen. They began eating and talking and as the conversation drew on my brother said he looked up and his friend had turned "white as a sheet" and was staring off with a "1000 mile stare" his head slowly turning across from one side to the next and transfixed. My brother, after a minute, asked his friend what was wrong? He friend replied " an old woman with her hair all rolled up wearing a Mu Mu just walked out of the kitchen cupboard behind my brother and entered the door to the dining room.

Well, there was no old woman living in the house at that time. Had been before but not then. The only other person living there was my brothers friends girlfriend and she was out for the evening.

So there is my brothers story. The friend still lives there and I do not think he has seen anything else. Let me assure you this is a true story, If you know those involved you would know it was not made up.

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oneal lane: I can relate to Bigfoot having been raised in British Columbia where there is some very remote countryside amongst rugged mountains.

In particular, we used to spend a lot of time both as a kid and as adults in a primary tourist area called Harrison Hot Springs where Bigfoot is legendary and promoted for the almighty dollar.

Does he exist? I don’t know. Does the Abominable Snowman exist? Does the Yeti?

I belonged to the Wildlife Association for a time, and I know the outdoors pretty well. There was a time that remote areas were exactly that - remote. Today we have technology and population. We still have a remote possibility, however. Many times I’ve walked in one of the world’s most populated cougar areas, seen clues, and never encountered one. They may have seen me.

From Harrison I have a booklet with copies of affidavits (relating to the Sasquatch) from a mayor, who might have satisfied constituents, and the Royal Canadian Mountain Police who have seen and/or reported on the Sasquatch. Others have sworn similar affidavits which are included in the documentation. Pretty risky or smart claims I would say.

I heard one story about a utility worker known for his reliability and his comradeship. Apparently, he went up a lone backroad with his truck, had a youthful appearance and dark hair when he left, and came back scared, pale faced, with white hair and with a disturbed mental ability. He had been sociable before the incident, but became more reclusive and no rewards were bestowed upon him with fame or fortune. He never sought out any interviews or documentation. In fact the opposite was the case, and it almost destroyed his life.

Also, in a BC valley, I know of a veterinarian that worked for the Federal government and he was consulted along with other experts when several farmers had their animals gutted and the necks were broken without any lacerations of the neck, head, or hind quarters. All kinds of theories were given. Witchcraft or cult worshippers, truck pulls, bears, cougars, and wolves. None of which could have done the job as they discovered. I don’t believe the answer ever came about. I’ve heard of similar cases elsewhere where aliens were thought to be the suspected cause; but, in this area, Sasquatch is mentioned.

Bigfoot sightings have also been mentioned in Washington’s National Olympic Park just across the BC border. I was on a story about missing teenagers from our town on Vancouver Island. They were not the first to go missing in that thick growth in the Pacific Northwest. I did hear rumours that, because of the heightened military activity in the Vietnam 60s, everything from draft dodgers to mountain men and returning soldiers who were struggling with society made the area their home, and they often looked down on outsiders preferring to remain unseen and unknown or worse. Who knows? This may be the reason for their local Bigfoot.

Is there something out there? Well, I believe that there are those who believe they see what they see whether aliens, ghosts, or Bigfoot.

Sailors are known for superstitions and I and my father both met many who were either trained actors or truly believed they saw something whether it was a UFO or the Flying Dutchman which is still seen today. Fame doesn’t fit the scenario, and neither does status discriminate amongst a global kinship. Of course there will always be the story teller; but, then there are the others.

Some have never seen a submarine. Believe me when I say they exist and not just on TV, in a movie, or in a book. Oh, yeah. Man landed on the moon.

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Pretty interesting stuff about Q, SBLS,

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It sure is an interesting world. Eh wot?

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oneal lane: I can relate to Bigfoot having been raised in British Columbia where there is some very remote countryside amongst rugged mountains.

In particular, we used to spend a lot of time both as a kid and as adults in a primary tourist area called Harrison Hot Springs where Bigfoot is legendary and promoted for the almighty dollar.

Does he exist? I don’t know. Does the Abominable Snowman exist? Does the Yeti?

I belonged to the Wildlife Association for a time, and I know the outdoors pretty well. There was a time that remote areas were exactly that - remote. Today we have technology and population. We still have a remote possibility, however. Many times I’ve walked in one of the world’s most populated cougar areas, seen clues, and never encountered one. They may have seen me.

From Harrison I have a booklet with copies of affidavits (relating to the Sasquatch) from a mayor, who might have satisfied constituents, and the Royal Canadian Mountain Police who have seen and/or reported on the Sasquatch. Others have sworn similar affidavits which are included in the documentation. Pretty risky or smart claims I would say.

I heard one story about a utility worker known for his reliability and his comradeship. Apparently, he went up a lone backroad with his truck, had a youthful appearance and dark hair when he left, and came back scared, pale faced, with white hair and with a disturbed mental ability. He had been sociable before the incident, but became more reclusive and no rewards were bestowed upon him with fame or fortune. He never sought out any interviews or documentation. In fact the opposite was the case, and it almost destroyed his life.

Also, in a BC valley, I know of a veterinarian that worked for the Federal government and he was consulted along with other experts when several farmers had their animals gutted and the necks were broken without any lacerations of the neck, head, or hind quarters. All kinds of theories were given. Witchcraft or cult worshippers, truck pulls, bears, cougars, and wolves. None of which could have done the job as they discovered. I don’t believe the answer ever came about. I’ve heard of similar cases elsewhere where aliens were thought to be the suspected cause; but, in this area, Sasquatch is mentioned.

Bigfoot sightings have also been mentioned in Washington’s National Olympic Park just across the BC border. I was on a story about missing teenagers from our town on Vancouver Island. They were not the first to go missing in that thick growth in the Pacific Northwest. I did hear rumours that, because of the heightened military activity in the Vietnam 60s, everything from draft dodgers to mountain men and returning soldiers who were struggling with society made the area their home, and they often looked down on outsiders preferring to remain unseen and unknown or worse. Who knows? This may be the reason for their local Bigfoot.

Is there something out there? Well, I believe that there are those who believe they see what they see whether aliens, ghosts, or Bigfoot.

Sailors are known for superstitions and I and my father both met many who were either trained actors or truly believed they saw something whether it was a UFO or the Flying Dutchman which is still seen today. Fame doesn’t fit the scenario, and neither does status discriminate amongst a global kinship. Of course there will always be the story teller; but, then there are the others.

Some have never seen a submarine. Believe me when I say they exist and not just on TV, in a movie, or in a book. Oh, yeah. Man landed on the moon.

FSB


FSB,

Thanks for your take on this. The Pacific NW is a hot-spot for such activity. The closest I have been to that area is the Owyhee Mountains in western Idaho. In fact I just got back from there.

I have never experienced a sighting or anything unusual like ghosts, UFO's etc. But I do believe people are seeing these things. Some of it is made up by attention seekers and some of it is amplified by hysterical personalities, but I think a large number of reliable people are experiencing sightings without any pretense of fame or fortune. The native-Americans spoke and speak of Sasquatch.

After reading hundreds of entries of sightings on the "BFRO.net" website some common themes began to take shape. This led me to believe that there is something "other" about these creatures, something not natural. Sightings are listed in all 50 states, including highly populated areas. Any creature as large and as active as these are supposed to be would require a huge calorie intake to sustain life. In some places that would be easy, but in some locals finding that much food would be difficult, yet that does not seem to relate to their appearance in densely populated areas. Another feature that stands out is that humans seem to sense there presence extra sensorially. Usually something is said like "I felt like I was being watched" or "the hair stood up on the back of my head." When give the chance the majority of witnesses decline to "shoot at one" because they sense something "vaguely human about them" and would feel bad about it.

I could go on, but suffice to say these manifestations are a mystery to mankind. Again the entries at BFRO.net furnish anyone interested with a mountain of information.

You mention the RCMP and I would love to sit down with a number of them and hear what they think.

Again thanks for your response. One last thing. Tampering with these "entities" is dangerous business. People who go out looking for them are setting themselves in a dangerous position. Some don't come back. I live in a very rural area amidst thousands of acres of forest. Less than a mile from my house there was a multi year ongoing sighting . Every time I have to go out at night to check out why the dogs are upset I think about that. I always take along a blindingly strong "beam light" which seems to be the best defense.

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Thanks, for the post OL. I’m not quite ready for a Star Trek sweater just yet; but, I remember my father and my mother, my little brother who was about 6 years old and I about 12 years old in the late 50s on a Chicago freeway.when suddenly the sky over us became black as a shadow creeped over our car from behind, and then there was the noise above, Flying only hundreds of feet above was this:



Pretty exciting for.a couple of Canadian kids traveling through the States. from coast to coast. That was pretty alien to us in those days. I can only imagine if we’d seen it or the jet version at night. :shock:

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The same day we passed a VTOL Hiller flying platform similar to this one:


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FSB,

What a rare treat to see that in real life! I was born in 1958 so I just missed that stage of aviation.

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What a rare treat to see that in real life! I was born in 1958 so I just missed that stage of aviation.

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Yup! Even a variety of helicopters were cool. Here in Canada we shared American, British, and Canadian aviation.

It was much like today with aviation advances; only with the second World War and the follow up it was mostly done in a tighter window out of need. Today’s advances are, likely because of the complexity and hurdles to surpass, on a much slower pace. Stealth is definitely advancing, but even when in it’s crude form it had been a concern along with detection. Fly by wire and manoeuvre ability is amazing. While there are cool developments, that’s mostly what they are - developments and expectations rather than a gigantic jump in something new such as the space shuttle or space station. IMHO Still impressive, however.

For example, at the early stage of WWII in 1940 (not so long ago - less than a century) my father was, for a time, on an aircraft carrier with obsolete torpedo bombing biplanes called Fairey Swordfish which, even amongst fixed wings and jets, lasted throughout the war being responsible for sinking the battleship Bismarck because they worked.

During the 40s the flying wing(s) briefly appeared as well as much rocketry and jet engine technology and, two years after the war, rumours of an alien landing in Roswell circulated in the year of my birth. Maybe, that's why I’m weird. :lol:
The 50s presented many tweaks and the race for air superiority was the race for space age of it’s time. I think once man could grasp onto what was possible and stand back to look at what they had accomplished together with a common cause and brain work they turned to the heavens in a big way.

Today we speak of going to Mars, and hard landings with Cosmonauts. Neither appear glamorous as this article of life on Mars points out:

https://theconversation.com/sorry-elon- ... dea-100964

Maybe the aliens should or already have come to us.

We might find some answers here in one of many recent discoveries:

https://m.phys.org/news/2018-10-astrono ... verse.html

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Factoid: Reports say one in three people still believe the earth is flat. :shock:

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