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Are there more or less live guitar venues in your locale?
More 22%  22%  [ 2 ]
Less 22%  22%  [ 2 ]
About the same 33%  33%  [ 3 ]
Don’t know 11%  11%  [ 1 ]
Other (explain in your post) 11%  11%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 9
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Post subject: Re: Is Your Area’s Live Guitar Music Alive Or Dying?
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:08 pm
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Marky Forrest wrote:
Very interesting and thought-provoking videos, FSB. Thank you for posting them and starting this topic.
Thanks, Marky. As for demographics changing, the Irish in me will find an Irish pub anywhere - even at the end of our street and close to my Mom’s 1500 miles from here, and they both have live music. The great waitresses are often multi-national; however, the beer and whiskey, other spirits, blarney and ballyhoo are still the same :P . . . and then there’s this kind of fun from our own Rhumba (Steven). Steven is first seen on the left in the foreground. :D


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Post subject: Re: Is Your Area’s Live Guitar Music Alive Or Dying?
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:30 pm
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My vote, about the same. Live music venues clubs and bars open and close all of the time. Buddy Guy's club is still open and he plays every now and then. Chicago is a guitar playing town.

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Post subject: Re: Is Your Area’s Live Guitar Music Alive Or Dying?
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:16 pm
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Chicago did not disappoint. Pizza, the Blues, and live entertainment is still alive, and well. Good to see. Thanks, for checking in SBLS. :D Pass The Parmigianno-Regianno. Grazie!

Well, so far it appears that things are, generally speaking, healthy for live venues as presently reported here in the Lounge. Nice!
63 % the same or better
25 % less
The remainder not known.

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amusement. Accuracy is not assured.


I encourage others throughout the Forums to check in to let us know what it is like at your location large or small, whether from a big city, small town, or other location regardless of country. A brief description like the gang have given here will be great and helpful. Thanks, for taking part and

Don’t forget to vote! :D
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:57 pm
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Marky Forrest wrote:
Very interesting and thought-provoking videos, FSB. Thank you for posting them and starting this topic.
Thanks, Marky. As for demographics changing, the Irish in me will find an Irish pub anywhere - even at the end of our street and close to my Mom’s 1500 miles from here, and they both have live music. The great waitresses are often multi-national; however, the beer and whiskey, other spirits, blarney and ballyhoo are still the same :P . . . and then there’s this kind of fun from our own Rhumba (Steven). Steven is first seen on the left in the foreground. :D

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Ah, looks like a good time. :)

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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:37 am
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I felt like I had to go with "Other" on my vote, because; though it still seems like the gigs and venues in my area do not seem to be declining in numbers (as compared to the 80's and early 90's when I was constantly on the move), it's obvious (to me) that they are far less advertised and/or talked about. Now you either have to catch word of mouth face to face, or see a poster at the venue hosting the upcoming event, or Music/Guitar store's bulletin board.
Back in the day, Rock station KFMW 'Rock' 108 used to advertise all week long for local businesses and large venues (National tours coming to the area)---and now we hear very little to nothing about up-coming local gigs, and the big national tours have seemed to whittle their appearances to either the Quad Cities (The Mark in Moline, IL.) or Des Moines (Wells Fargo Arena). Where-as in the 70's, 80's & 90's we had more BIG names coming to Cedar Rapids (Five Seasons Center now called U.S. Cellular Center), Waterloo (McElroy Auditorium and 5 Sullivan Brothers Convention Center), Cedar Falls (UNI Dome), Ames (Iowa States' Jack Trice Stadium and Hilton Coliseum), Dubuque (Five Flags Center)...always had a place to see a show.
We still get a lot of "has beens" and "once weres" at our State Fair in August, and The Surf Ballroom in Clear Lake (where Buddy Holly played his last show, the night the music died) in February and sprinkled throughout the Summer.


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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:25 pm
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Thanks. for your interesting take and vote, White Dog. A lot of good observation there.

This is pretty much what I, as a former broadcaster have seen. Not so much more or less, but overall different.

I’m one of those dinosaurs that worked with a head office for a radio network and, for a period, the largest TV studios in western Canada. With a powerful AM/FM/TV station we shared 24/7 full time live broadcasting. This allowed us the chance to slip in live music, interviews. and promotion on a spur of the moment. We had to competitively fill the air time (good for promoters, the out of town and local artists and bands, and the media). Add to that - It created more facilities to professionally record bands and music like “Shaking All Over”. Local recordings then got airplay, and establishments scrambled to showcase the local groups. Had this local band and it’s live radio support not occurred, Lennie Kravitz would have missed out on American Woman. The same experience occurred around the world.

When people talked more, word of mouth, posters and billboards inside and outside city limits, and radio were everywhere from offices to shopping malls, cars, and even garages. These all gave us heads up without the DJ removed. Today’s automated repeat audio, or a limited cut in announcement, or a sound bite amongst the News didn’t satisfy earlier listeners’ need to associate themselves with their faves.

Local celebrity reviewers were held in high esteem, and they were in the loop from the inside and not just as a casual participant. They were within reach to help a local musician get an introduction. Big and small local newspapers had plenty of access, advance notice, and coverage of the current music scene. More than a brief entertainment article graced the pages. Sometimes, a whole section was devoted to live and recorded music. News stands were everywhere. Although, this practice still happens today, a lot of it has migrated to a national or monopolized control. Dwindling newspapers have downsized and that includes support of live music. Local media had a brotherhood and history of sharing entertainment when it was a mutual benefit. Record stores and sponsors joined the party.

Nowadays, with exceptions, rubbing shoulders with artists and band members can be either a recording or a premium concert ticket backstage meeting, maybe. They might not even show up in your area because it’s not necessary anymore. As it always has been, the local band might have left town for greener pastures.

As good as social media is the coverage was different then. Producers used to send their talent to be interviewed or to meet the public on casual terms, often unannounced. (Big cities with big population coverage continues to exist, but with a more concentrated effort by the producers. Big city coverage can be a blessing or a curse with cliques or fighting to be seen or to be heard amongst the plenty. When it’s good, however, it’s very good).

Promotion and entertainment didn’t always wait for us to find out what was happening . . . promotion and entertainment found us!

Better or worse today? Both IMHO. It’s certainly opened doors on a grand scale, especially for profiteers. For others, doors have closed.

I could expand on this, but you said it well, White Dog.

Understandably, depending on where one lives, there are hotspots and frigid spots as found in this thread so YMMV. Not a lot of Surf music in this prairie neighbourhood. Prolly more in my family room. :lol: Thankfully, these tried and true promotional methods and venues are still out there (like touring astronaut Chris Hadfield and his space station “Space Oddity”); but, unless you stumble upon them, you might have to go online to find out where, providing you do the right search . . . :lol:
Or go for a walk in the entertainment district, and follow the sound. :wink:
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Post subject: Re: Is Your Area’s Live Guitar Music Alive Or Dying?
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:58 am
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You've brought another thought to my mind FSB...with the decline of Newspapers and Subscribers, I wonder if advertisement costs have gotten to a point that local bands can't afford it directly out-of-pocket, and/or venues have decided the cost is not worth the 'turn-out'?

In the late 70's and early 80's (when I was in Junior High School) I had three paper routes (growing up in a town of 630 people). EVERYONE either got the Waterloo Courier, or Des Moines Register...and a lot of them got both papers (especially on Sunday). Now; I know (literally) a hand full of people that still get the physical Newspaper.


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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:00 am
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White Dog wrote:
. . . In the late 70's and early 80's (when I was in Junior High School) I had three paper routes (growing up in a town of 630 people). EVERYONE either got the Waterloo Courier, or Des Moines Register...and a lot of them got both papers (especially on Sunday). Now; I know (literally) a hand full of people that still get the physical Newspaper.
Well, I’ll be a monkey’s uncle. As a little kid, so did I. The first was the local Victoria Times Colonist. Very early, before school, the Colonist version was a Monday to Friday delivery, For the evening on those days I delivered the Times version, and Saturday was a national (Toronto) Star Weekly; but, for you to have pretty much the whole town, how cool is that? 8)
You certainly touched on an excellent point about cost to advertise a band or venue or even a yard sale, White Dog. Too bad as everybody loses out. Oh, another thing about the newspaper is that you could often find one passed on or laying about with those ads. You’d see the blurb about the venue; but, the same might pass you by digitally.

Later in life I read my local and my distant second home’s newspaper. From a world away I’d buy London England’s Daily Mirror and I’d follow the popular public national and international interest bawdy comic adventures of Jane and, I grew to enjoy anything written by the the Windy City’s answer to Andy Rooney - Mike Royko, so the Chicago Tribune was often read. I used to pick these papers up at a shop (all before ever setting foot in England and, after having a few visits to Chicago). The London and Chicago papers were loaded with ads and articles with what’s happening in the music world, and, likely, they still are.

There was a lot of entertainment in those papers back then. I miss the coloured funnies/comics, and the two funny guys on the radio that read them aloud and discussed them every morning while I had breakfast. Holey crap! I’m ancient. :lol:
But, I still like to play. :P
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Post subject: Re: Is Your Area’s Live Guitar Music Alive Or Dying?
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:36 pm
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Looks like this unscientific poll without taking regions and other things into consideration, for what it is, seems to show that live music is alive and well. Nice.

More response would bring this poll to a better representation; but, thanks to those who participated.

‘About the same’ or ‘More’ comes in at a total of 55%, and it could be higher from Don’t know’.

Add your vote if you can.

And rawk on. :D
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