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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:50 am
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Not really a fan of these. Mayer, Meh I liked what he did before he let his ego get the better of him and went friggen crazy...


a strat needs to have "Fender" on the head stock,, anything else, is a copy and these are "Very expensive" copies (just like Surh, my opinion it is the same end result to me) Call me a traditionalist!

btw, how many signature guitars is one allowed?


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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:53 am
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I hate everything about it.

https://youtu.be/iyRmdTgZ_bM

To me, it SOUNDS like a Humbucker equipped PRS with "split" to artificially sound like Single coils.
The fretboard and headstock look WAY out of place on the body as well.

So; for sound and looks, it gets a zero from me.

There'll be people that feel the same way as I do, yet will buy one just for the association to the artist and manufacturer. Hell; you can stick a piece of used gum to a First Act Strat copy, and tell people Buddy Guy chewed that gum, and SOMEONE would buy it.
It is what it is. :roll:


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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:00 am
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I've auditioned these 'strats'in boutique shops which carry them. [The Music Zoo, and Rudy's in particular]. They never feel as comfy to me as the Fenders. I think these guitars have a 12 radius neck which might also be an issue for me.

My go to's are my Clapton's. The one guitar which really knocked me out when I first shouldered it was my Gilmour. Something about the weight and balance of that instrument is special. The neck carries the designation '57C which is less chunkier than their 'modern-C'. Bear in mind that the alphabet designations were orlginally paired to measurement specs and not cross-sectional profiles.

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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:12 am
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KidBlast wrote:
btw, how many signature guitars is one allowed?


Taking it from one of us who have followed these trends on these forums for better than a decade now, as many as sponsors can get an artist's psychofans to purchase them. Buddy Guy, for example? Guild Bluesbird, Fender Stratocaster and Smith???. As for Guy, there's a little known Signature guitar that had a very short run in the early 90's. It was a natural finish, with a tortoise scratchplate, and conventional pickups. Fender's used that combination elsewhere. I could never find one hanging on the wall anywhere. Then he shifted to knock-off's of the Clapton circuitry, first in the honey blond guitar which became Artist Series for a time, and then to the Polka Dots...black body, red body, white body, and blue body...Oh, yes...there WAS more than one flavor, but not all of them went to market.

BTW: If you're patient, Chromeface may just turn up with some relevant photos.

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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:31 am
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ZZDoc wrote:
I think these guitars have a 12 radius neck which might also be an issue for me.


The 1st Generation Elites were the first Fenders to carry 12"-inch radius necks.

When the Studio Elite debuted in 1987, it sported a compound radius neck with the early 1959 backshape from which the Clapton neck is based. Of course Eric opted for the standard 9.5"-inch radius for his personal axes, which is a compromise between the vintage 7.25" and the flatter 12".

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Then he shifted to knock-off's of the Clapton circuitry, first in the honey blond guitar which became Artist Series for a time, and then to the Polka Dots...black body, red body, white body, and blue body...Oh, yes...there WAS more than one flavor, but not all of them went to market.


There were two variations of the black polka dot Strat, one with Lace Sensors and Elite circuitry and another one with a pair of humbuckers.

The honey blond guitar started life with Lace Sensors, active electronics and a brown shell pickguard.

Later, the Laces were exchanged for a set of dual-coil ceramic stacks, the Elite circuit was removed and a new parchment pickguard was fitted.


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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:50 am
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The honey blond guitar started life with Lace Sensors, active electronics and a brown shell pickguard. Later, the Laces were exchanged for a set of dual-coil ceramic stacks, the Elite circuit was removed and a new parchment pickguard was fitted.


I knew that the body of the guitar he's playing now was a Custom Shop build. So you're saying then, that it was originally part of his original Lace Sensor Artist Series guitar, and not a separate issue.

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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:34 am
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I think the big controversy is John Mayer.I definitely see a PRS guitar.Im sure there wouldn't have been as much fuss if PRS had reissued the EG with a 25.5 scale length and a new tremolo design

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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:51 am
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chromeface wrote:
The mini-toggles are used for series/parallel/out-of-phase sounds. Coupled with the active treble/bass boost circuitry and the 5-way pickup selector this configuration works similarly like the James Demeter-designed "Lead/Rhythm" electronics (aka "full option") commonly found on the Studio Elite and other Tyler models.

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Hey there, Chromeface. Thanks, for clarifying that. I kinda figured those were the reason. I’m not against their usage, only that there are alternatives. I have an S1 on my Amn Dlx that handles a similar duty. Do you know if these toggle 1 way or 2 ways and are they able to be used together or independently?

The mini toggles look okay as intended on the nice looking axe you provided above (liking the pickguard/body combo); but, the Super Eagle layout looks like they had modded with some leftover toggles and just slapped them in there. Maybe if they added a few more it would help.

As for the use of mini toggle switches - along with stomp boxes, they come in handy for drip reverb on a Cuisinart coffee maker. They also look cool on brushed heavy metal with black.:P
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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:56 am
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Which one is most controversial?

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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:06 am
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Fender Strat Brat wrote:
Do you know if these toggle 1 way or 2 ways and are they able to be used together or independently?


They're 3-way (series/parallel/out-of-phase). Can be used together or separately depending the placement on the 5-way switch.

As you've noticed there's another 2-way toggle which I suppose presets the midboost circuit for a screaming fat lead sound; it's often used for solos. The push-push button is a mode switch which completely bypasses the Demeter preamp.


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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:28 am
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Thanks for your always detailed and relative info chromeface. Pretty awesome, but this switching setup is obviously not for those who have trouble remembering or those who are always indecisive. :lol:
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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:31 am
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Swede71 wrote:
Which one is most controversial?

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Good one, Swede 71. This reminds me of the IQ game “Which one doesn’t belong?”

Hmm.

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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:44 am
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Fender Strat Brat wrote:
Thanks for your always detailed and relative info chromeface. Pretty awesome, but this switching setup is obviously not for those who have trouble remembering or those who are always indecisive. :lol:
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Tom Anderson's Switcheroo is not as complex as the Tyler "Lead/Rhythm" Circuit. This trend started in the late 1970s when Neal Moser was hired by Bernie Rico Sr to design custom active pickups and circuitry for BC Rich.

Generally this enhanced pickup switching caters for guitarists looking for versatility from their axes.

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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:53 am
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Swede71 wrote:
I think the big controversy is John Mayer.I definitely see a PRS guitar.Im sure there wouldn't have been as much fuss if PRS had reissued the EG with a 25.5 scale length and a new tremolo design

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John was seen playing a black NF3 during Eric Clapton's MSG shows 3 years ago. This leds me to suppose that he chose the NF3 as a basis for his namesake Silver Sky guitar. :o

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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:31 pm
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I have to ask you chromeface if the Demeter midboost in Tyler guitars is the same as the Demeter pedal midboost.I have the pedal and like it a lot .Cool looking guitar btw.


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