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Post subject: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts??
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:22 pm
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Many of you may not have been members during the tumultuous period when Fender was producing two Limited Edition Signature Series Stratocasters, in addition to the already existing production Mayer Artist Series guitars. One was intended for the proletarians, and the other for the oligarchs amongst us. The controversies and heated discussions which ensued across the months during which this project materialized were fierce. The hateful firestorm which Mike Eldred, the former Custom Shop Marketing director, and a Mayer supporter, met over the difference in the appearance of one of the pickups on the final Custom Shop Signature Model was downright hateful. So after all this yada yada with Fender, Mayer jumps ship to PRS, is seen all over the planet playing their Customs and has now carved out a place for himself in guitar design history with his own take on the venerable Strat. My view in this matter really begins with my posts during that time. Mayer, notwithstanding his capable chops, launched his career as an SRV clone, [one of several], including the Fender guitar he designed for himself, and after SRV's demise, is now employing Rene Martinez as his guitar tech. IMHO, if he'd had enough of Fender, he should have left our Strat alone, instead of creating this horrible hybrid out of a guitar which won an industrial design award years back. A most hideous looking blend of body and headstock. Perhaps the only plus in his modification of the body, is the PRS relief in the lower bout. Your thoughts?? YMMV

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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:37 pm
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Any other headstock just looks wrong with a strat body.

IMO the PRS marketing dept should have talked some sense into Mayer. He could have come out with something cool and new, instead of this knockoff. Opportunity wasted.


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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:19 pm
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Any other headstock just looks wrong with a strat body.

IMO the PRS marketing dept should have talked some sense into Mayer. He could have come out with something cool and new, instead of this knockoff. Opportunity wasted.


Think of it as ego driven stupidity on the part of both the artist and the guitar builder. I wasn't surprised to receive email from The Music Zoo, hard on the heels of the release of this guitar, they had one in stock. I wonder if there are enough Mayer devotees who have no memory of his Fender association who are willing to drop $2200+ to become a first on your blockster.

Smith has done well with the high quality, modestly priced, beautifully designed and finished, Korean built line he's been marketing.

IMHO he's tarnished his image with this awful creation and its coats of many colors.

Uff!!

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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:43 pm
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I don't care for it and have enough with 7.25” fretboard radius.

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"and in other news John Mayer deeply regrets splitting from Fender and is trying to get PRS to make him Strats. . . . ."

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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:07 am
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I like it.Sounds good in the videos.I think it could be a great platform for the best PRS bolt-on model ever.I see it with 2 humbuckers and a 10" radius.Or as a studio as PRS calls it(hss).I don't think Prs intention is to compete with the stratmarket.If it is they will not succeed but I think even if it's a signature model,it's the best "strat" model from prs so far....ok minus the 7.25" radius.


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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:06 am
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I like it.Sounds good in the videos.I think it could be a great platform for the best PRS bolt-on model ever.I see it with 2 humbuckers and a 10" radius.Or as a studio as PRS calls it(hss).I don't think Prs intention is to compete with the stratmarket.If it is they will not succeed but I think even if it's a signature model,it's the best "strat" model from prs so far....ok minus the 7.25" radius.


What strikes me about your commentary is that you don't accept the guitar on its merits or giving it a chance to fly. The guitar has barely hit the ground and you are off and running, seeing it as a test bed for future modifications, and definite about not caring for the 7.5 radius neck. I've been playing Strats these nearly past 50 years now, own five, two of which are Claptons, the second and third of which I've owned in the past. For me, that neck is the best Fender ever produced for my hand. [YMMV.] I've also owned a Smith '94 CE 24 Bolt-on and an '08 Johnny Hiland Signature, both of which, in terms of style and appearance alone, bury this new Mayer creation. They were both '10 tops' one whale blue, and the other, book-matched, tortoise shell. Unfortunately, my fretting hand does not play Smith's necks as comfortably as the Clapton. Both those guitars were eventually swapped out for Stratocasters. One, a Custom Shop model of my own design, and the other an '08 Gilmour which, in its own right, is a totally awesome guitar. Where Smith buries Fender every time is in the quality of their hard shell cases which, even the Custom Shop has yet to better, as well as his line of modestly priced Korean built instruments. Just say'in. Again....YMMV.

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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:26 am
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Many *other* companies wish they had a Strat model too.

http://www.ibanez.com/products/u_eg_pre ... id=5&pre=0

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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:47 am
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Many *other* companies wish they had a Strat model too.

http://www.ibanez.com/products/u_eg_pre ... id=5&pre=0


Mayer's guitar wishes it was stylish and flowing in lines as that Ibanez on your link. Unfortunately, the headstock is a brick wall. Just to give you an idea of where I date back to, Carvin, who was imitating Fender back in the 50's learned the styling advantage and look of a six-in-a line headstock. Scroll down and look at the headstock of that mandolin. Were Mayer and Smith really innovative in their thinking?

http://www.carvinmuseum.com/decade/57-guitars.html

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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
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The big internet controversy is basically about 3 singlecoils and an output jack plus a great great guitarplayer that used to play fender guitars.What I mean is that if you put two humbuckers on this guitar it's very much a PRS with a new tremolo and a different neckradius.From a customer perspective I think they should used the 10" radius but that's only my personal opinion.
Speaking of the Clapton strat,a model I also love,especially the 9.5" radius neck.That model has its origin in the Elite model from the early 80s.Im sure that model was controversial to the fender fans when it was released.It has 3 siblings,the Clapton strat,the buddy guy strat and the deluxe powerhouse strat.


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Post subject: Re: John Mayer's PRS Silver Stratocloudster....Any thoughts?
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:11 pm
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Swede71 wrote:
The big internet controversy is basically about 3 singlecoils and an output jack plus a great great guitarplayer that used to play fender guitars.What I mean is that if you put two humbuckers on this guitar it's very much a PRS with a new tremolo and a different neckradius.From a customer perspective I think they should used the 10" radius but that's only my personal opinion.
Speaking of the Clapton strat,a model I also love,especially the 9.5" radius neck.That model has its origin in the Elite model from the early 80s.Im sure that model was controversial to the fender fans when it was released.It has 3 siblings,the Clapton strat,the buddy guy strat and the deluxe powerhouse strat.


With two humbuckers it becomes what was originally known as Sam Ash’s FSR ‘48th Street Strat’. I first saw that incarnation as twin Lace Red Duallys one holiday season in their Carle Place NY store about 20 years ago. As for the ‘Elite’, the odyssey of Fender’s exploration of active electronics ending in the Clapton is well known. One of mine is a pre-production example with a mini-toggle switch for the mid boost.

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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:40 pm
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.[b]What I mean is that if you put two humbuckers on this guitar it's very much a PRS with a new tremolo and a different neckradius.[/b]
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P.S.https://forums.fender.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=62381

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JM has always been just a little bit ..... "troubled".
He has a unique way of seeing things which some call genius and others call insanity.
Truth be told, monster skills and the money that go with them are probably what keep him out of the psych wards.
Looking for a Strat from a set-neck double bucker company just seems like a natural extension of his condition to me.
That said, Paul is no slouch as a guitar builder.
He will have created an amazing instrument.

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Swede71 wrote:
It has 3 siblings, the Clapton Strat, the Buddy Guy Strat and the Deluxe Powerhouse Strat.


You forgot the Sambora Strats (1st and 2nd Generation) with the stars. Both guitars featured the Elite circuitry and a mode switch in the form of a push button.

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As for the ‘Elite’, the odyssey of Fender’s exploration of active electronics ending in the Clapton is well known. One of mine is a pre-production example with a mini-toggle switch for the mid boost.


One of the two Elites Fender sent to Clapton for his Behind the Sun tour sported a standard 5-way pickup selector and regular Strat knobs. It was also fitted with a '57-style maple neck. Eric said in an interview with Dan Forte in 1985 that he messed up with it.

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