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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:04 am
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No use for pedals other than the Electro Harmonix Hum-Debugger. The old Line 6 Vetta and C-T's effects are fine...for the (very, very) few times when effects other than reveb and occasional tremolo are used.

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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:21 am
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i'm looking at upgrading to a Vox Valvetronic since it's gotten some of the better quality reviews than other built in models. For me, as a beginning hobbyist, it's an afforable way to find my sound and experiment.

however, i do plan on blowing a huge wad of cash on a super nice amp in the future :wink:


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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:39 pm
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I'm mostly for using pedals. I use a Fender Ultimate Chorus as my amp, but don't use the onboard effects much--the delay and/or chorus for a few songs at specific points, but that's about it. I get more variety from mixing and matching my stompboxes (especially now that I got my Blues Driver fixed!)...

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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:55 am
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do not use pedal or built in effects
rely on amplifier for my Marshall overdrive


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Post subject: Re: Amps: Effects built in, or, pedals
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:25 am
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Play3r wrote:
When getting an amp for practical use, is it better to have the effects built in (Line 6 Spider lll), or is it better to buy a simple amp (Fender FM212R) and then get pedals you want?


I'd go with a simple tube amp and build from there.

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Post subject: Re: Amps: Effects built in, or, pedals
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:39 am
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I'd go with a simple tube amp and build from there.[/quote]

That's true. You can never go wrong with a good tube amp and nice individual pedals.

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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:23 pm
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Amp with footswith and effects. But after that, pedals are good.


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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:27 pm
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I had an idea that it would save a lot of hassel for jams, practices, and informal sessions (where you have to transport your gear to another location) if I'd get a SS amp w/ effects and not have to lug my heavier tube amp and several pedals. I'd keep the tube and pedals for gigs.

Now I find myself taking the Tubescreamer and Chorus pedal along anyway and leaving the SS amp set on reverb/delay. Continuously going back to the amp to select new effects is a pain.

So, for me, I've concluded that a good tube amp and 3 or 4 pedals is the way to go. It is more expensive this way though. (Never played a Cyber Twin nor was around anyone who did, so that could change my mind.)

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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:56 pm
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I don't care what kind of effects you choose, it all comes down to the tone coming from your amp. If you don't like the sound before effect, you probably will sruggle with getting a tone to your liking with effects added.

Think of it like a steak. A bad piece of meat is still bad no matter what you season it with. You're just covering up the flavor. Just like covering up your tone with effect after effect.

I use both pedals and digital (POD XT Live) and the heart of my tone is a Fender tube amp running clean. The warmth of the tubes really brings the XT Live to life.


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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:37 am
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Ceri wrote:
Analog v digital is another question.

But as far as FX in amps are concerned: well those are just beginner toys for small children. The job of an amp is to be an amp.

And if you ever see an amp with a cold drinks dispenser incorporated avoid that too. What are techs for, after all?

Cheers - C



I totally agree. I don't like amps w/ built in effects because 1. it's a pain to walk over to the amp, 2. to me it compromises the sound. I like a vintage sound but with some extra pedals ( if i get any, which i prob. will) that make my solid state amp shine! PLus my cheap strat :) JUst don't overdo it, it will probably become a pain

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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:18 am
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cryingstrat wrote:
blues bondsman wrote:
I would normaly agree, one exception, the Cyber twin.

The C/T has it all, great tones and some good effects.

I bought a line6 150 watt 2x12 thing cheap at a pawn shop just for an effects machine and sold it on the bay within two weeks and ran as fast as I could back to a Cyber Twin, absolutely no camparing the two.

you do have to get past the presets to truley find the worth of the C/T


Agreed. While I'm usually a pedal guy (no multi-fx, stand alone pedals), the Cyber Twin is just an amazing tool. Some of those presets like the 66 Super Reverb or the 58 Deluxe are soooo good. Last night I was using the 58 Deluxe with some of the Cyber Twin OD and it was vintage heaven. I mean I may as well have been playing thru a real 58 Deluxe and an original tube screamer. It really does sound that good.



100% total agreement!
I used to use a few pedals with my tube amps. But preferred the guitar>cord>amp sound when the pedals weren't needed.

With my CT SE I can have both the guitar>cord>amp sounds and the pedals too. Plus 50 amps to choose from.

Right now the Twin Reverb '65 is my favorite. It sounds just like my TRRI setting in my closet.
And then add the built in overdrive for a tubescreamer + Twin Reverb sound, while still having the guitar>cord>amp. That you can't do with traditional amps and pedals. Nice!! :)


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