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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:53 pm
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The more outlets the better. Then, they can have some price wars and price match against each other and offer no interest financing and we the consumers benefit. I got my guitar, Baby Blues, on sale at GC for a much lower price than anyone should pay, plus a hardshell case. It was a great deal from the GC in Rancho Cucamonga who had a cool manager at the time, and my Blues Junior from there was in perfect shape, internet price match, way below list. I got my CS Tx Special pickups at a huge discount because GC was price matching an internet price. So, I'm a fan of GC and they've done right by me like when I got a dead pickup and they swapped them for me. GC in San Bernardino took care of me on that one. I checked Best Buy for the financing on every purchase, and Sam Ash, but GC had the best deals. More serious Best Buy competition is just more good stuff at low prices, to fight for our business with Sam Ash and GC. So far, Best Buy sells very few components with not much variety, but they have some good financing deals on hot guitars like the Slash Les Paul. For set ups, forget the local music store and get your guitar to Wild West Guitars in Riverside, CA so the guitar wiz can work on it.

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My own experience is that whenever I go to the big box stores (namely GC) they don't have what I want, they don't know what I'm talking about, and the sales people try to talk me into settling for what they have in stock.

That is true and that happens everywhere. It is a big negative for alot of stores/companies. As a consumer it is our job to be educated about the products we buy. I do my thorough research online and if I want to try something out before buying, I will go to a store that has it and try it. I am usually more educated on the subject than the person selling it. If I want it, and the store has a return policy, warranty information, and the best price then I will buy it. I don't care from whom or where I buy it. I would buy it from a voodoo woman named Phyllis if she had the best price.


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No matter what the big chain stores lead us to believe, buying a guitar is not like buying a toothbrush or a pair of tube socks; it matters that each one is different and it matters that someone is paying attention to the details. You can't expect to get a great guitar if you just pull it off the assembly line, stick it in a box, and ship it to Walmart. That's why it's important to buy from retailers that care if you're getting a quality instrument.


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bluesgrass wrote:
My own experience is that whenever I go to the big box stores (namely GC) they don't have what I want, they don't know what I'm talking about, and the sales people try to talk me into settling for what they have in stock.

That is true and that happens everywhere. It is a big negative for alot of stores/companies. As a consumer it is our job to be educated about the products we buy. I do my thorough research online and if I want to try something out before buying, I will go to a store that has it and try it. I am usually more educated on the subject than the person selling it. If I want it, and the store has a return policy, warranty information, and the best price then I will buy it. I don't care from whom or where I buy it. I would buy it from a voodoo woman named Phyllis if she had the best price.


The voodoo women won't be undersold!

Agreed, it's important to do your homework. But if you know more than the sales person, doesn't that say something about how much your business is appreciated?


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bluesgrass wrote:
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bluesgrass wrote:
My own experience is that whenever I go to the big box stores (namely GC) they don't have what I want, they don't know what I'm talking about, and the sales people try to talk me into settling for what they have in stock.

That is true and that happens everywhere. It is a big negative for alot of stores/companies. As a consumer it is our job to be educated about the products we buy. I do my thorough research online and if I want to try something out before buying, I will go to a store that has it and try it. I am usually more educated on the subject than the person selling it. If I want it, and the store has a return policy, warranty information, and the best price then I will buy it. I don't care from whom or where I buy it. I would buy it from a voodoo woman named Phyllis if she had the best price.


Just don't complain about the product, after you've purchased it, or try to return it. Or.....she'll be sticking pins into a doll.

The voodoo women won't be undersold!

Agreed, it's important to do your homework. But if you know more than the sales person, doesn't that say something about how much your business is appreciated?

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"But if you know more than the sales person, doesn't that say something about how much your business is appreciated?"

I've found as I've gotten older that I know more then the salesperson more often then not. Not just guitars. It's just experience. Retailers of all types of products don't pay much so it's usually younger people with less experience taking those jobs. I think it's pretty normal.

I see nothing wrong with Fender opening new outlets for their line. The more people exposed to music the better. I'm not crazy about the potential harm it will do to the mom and pop operations, but where people shop is up to the consumer. Personally, I'll still support local small businesses. Mom and pop operations in all sorts of businesses eventually go away. How many butcher shops are still around. Used to be a lot. Shoe repair? Not many left. Tailors? Don't see many around anymore. Bakeries? Lost to the supermarket chains. Eventually someone will find a way to provide a service cheaper and easier for the consumer then a small business. It's just the way it works.

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bluesgrass wrote:
But if you know more than the sales person, doesn't that say something about how much your business is appreciated?

You've been to GC, right? :wink:
As a bassist, my local GC and Sam Ash is lacking in bass playing salesman. Mmmm, I wonder what they pay? 8)
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I don't think I'd buy an instrument from Best Buy. I used to work at Circuit City and I know how the guys in the warehouse handled merchandise, so I've got little faith some of the grunts they put in the storeroom care what kind of products they are handling.

GC may or may not be better, but I'd trust a mom and pop store any day to handle product they care about over BB or GC.


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More choice sounds good until places to pick from start to go away.Then you are at there mercy. Not that it involes guitars but thay gave us more choice of electricy in Maryland my average bill 180.00 went to 380.00 in one year and now they are say 19% more in the next 18 months. But more choice was going to be good for us. RIGHT!

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Yeah , just like when they busted up Ma Bell? I used to pay like $10 to $20 a month for phone service, now it's over $100


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It's been said that change can be a good thing, however, I'll stay with my authorized Fender dealers for my gear purchases. The "value added" services that they provide makes it a good experience, in my opinion.

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We've got a Best Buy music center adjacent to our local Guitar Center. It's OK. Nothing like Guitar Center, though. The music department at Best Buy is very small compared to Guitar Center. This can be a good thing. For example, they have a "loud room" where you can try a guitar using one of several amps that are in the room. I don't see what might be wrong with them selling the Fender line. It's doubtful that they will stock the entire line because of space considerations and saleability.


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I still think it is a good move on Fender's part. It is a natural outlet for the entire Starcaster line as well as some of the higher end stuff. Exposing the buying public to your merchandise is not a bad thing. I pray for miracles everyday and I've added that the salespeople in the musical instrument department are properly trained and well versed in the merchandise. I realize that will probably not happen but then you can always hope. Mom and Pop stores will probably be dinged at first but in the long run true musicians needing the expertise and high end instruments the these store offer will remain faithful.

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Im scared for whats coming next if thats real. although the whole best buy thing would be an advantage for me considering the only place you can buy a fender is 100 miles away at guitar center. although if they do sell guitars at Best buy, it could help business.

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Sometime back, Fender asked me to complete a survey and, as I recall, a few of the questions dealt with my opinion of Fender products being sold in "non-traditional outlets" like big box stores. I felt it was a bad idea because I thought it might damage the brand. After the intro of the Starcaster, I thought it would be OK if they limited it to starter guitars.

Well I can see how much my opinion counted. I thought I read somewhere that some of the floorspace to be devoted to these new "music shops" would come at the expense of space now used to sell CDs.

Interesting. They can't sell enough recorded CDs so they're going after the DIY market.


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