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Brad, are you saying no to the Fender name being in BB, or are you saying no to the entire line of Fender in BB?


The Fender name is in BB -- they carry our Starcaster® line!


Bad Idea! Fender doesn't belong in any store other than a music store. It just cheapens Fenders image. Just my two cents...


Yeah.....I fell the same way too. Makes it seem more like a toy or video game. It would feel like going to target and seeing those very cheap (no quality) guitars, and not wanting to go near them.

Just as long as I don't go to my local supermarket for a quart of milk, and see a strat displayed nearby, next to the cookies and crackers. At that point I'd probably just give up buying any more guitars.

I also have a bad feeling about this association! :?


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Can you imagine going to Best Buy for a Strat, and finding some employee who knows absolutely nothing about guitars, and trying to feed you information on what he's only heard or been told?

When I was looking for an expensive camera, I went to Best Buy to see what was available. I was in the camera section when a sales person approached me. I asked, "do you know a lot about cameras, and can answer my questions?" The sales person said yes. I started ask my questions, and in a very short time, realized the person didn't have a clue (for even basic questions) about what I was talking about (Photography is a hobby of mine). I left with the impression that that salesperson was only qualified selling one of those "one time use-disposable cameras" sold in grocery stores.

I can see the same thing happening to someone trying to buy a REAL strat at Best Buy.

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Syeklops wrote:
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Brad Traweek - Fender wrote:
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Brad, are you saying no to the Fender name being in BB, or are you saying no to the entire line of Fender in BB?


The Fender name is in BB -- they carry our Starcaster® line!


Bad Idea! Fender doesn't belong in any store other than a music store. It just cheapens Fenders image. Just my two cents...


Yeah.....I fell the same way too. Makes it seem more like a toy or video game. It would feel like going to target and seeing those very cheap (no quality) guitars, and not wanting to go near them.

Just as long as I don't go to my local supermarket for a quart of milk, and see a strat displayed nearby, next to the cookies and crackers. At that point I'd probably just give up buying any more guitars.


I disagree. Fender is making it's products available to masses. There are Best Buy's closer to more of the population than most of the Big Box musical instrument stores. I think it would behoove Best Buy to hire knowlegable people for the Musical Instrument department. If that is done then I think the shopping experince for both experienced and inexperience players could be enjoyable.

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I can assure you that BB is not going out of it's way to hire qualified employees to sell guitars as is evident in the post above about cameras. BB is only interested in moving stock period. I agree with you that it would be nice but....


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Syeklops wrote:
Can you imagine going to Best Buy for a Strat, and finding some employee who knows absolutely nothing about guitars, and trying to feed you information on what he's only heard or been told?

When I was looking for an expensive camera, I went to Best Buy to see what was available. I was in the camera section when a sales person approached me. I asked, "do you know a lot about cameras, and can answer my questions?" The sales person said yes. I started ask my questions, and in a very short time, realized the person didn't have a clue (for even basic questions) about what I was talking about (Photography is a hobby of mine). I left with the impression that that salesperson was only qualified selling one of those "one time use-disposable cameras" sold in grocery stores.

I can see the same thing happening to someone trying to buy a REAL strat at Best Buy.


I completely agree. It would like the worst Guitar Center experience imaginable x 100. And at least Guitar Center is focused on music gear, not also in computers, tv's, etc...
I would personally never buy any music gear (especially Fender) from a Best Buy, but that's just me.


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And we thought Guitar Center was bad enough...
My local Target sells Fender and Washburn instruments.
Is this sad news for music?


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My worry is what happens to that great litte Music shop that has been on the corner for 50 years. Thats like owning a five and dime store and having a Walmart build next door there goes most of your customers. Even if they are going to have to sell a MIM Strat for 399. like every one else that is one less sale for the corner store and for who that profit is a larger piece of there operating income.

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I can only imagine how pissed off the Fender authorized dealers would be.

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I would like to think that as long as there are musicians who are willing to go a little out of there way to shop at a store where the sales people know what they are talking about, the ma and pop music shops will be able to survive. Maybe that's naive. My own experience is that whenever I go to the big box stores (namely GC) they don't have what I want, they don't know what I'm talking about, and the sales people try to talk me into settling for what they have in stock.

From now on, I'm only shopping at stores that cater to actual musicians and not just people who want to buy more toys. Is anyone with me on this?


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I try to support my local stores, but it gets to a point where I can't justify it. We have a store twenty minutes away, but they don't sell Gibson or Epiphone, and their prices are significantly higher.

We also have the House of Guitars (you may have heard of it), which is about forty-five minutes away, and they will beat or match Guitar Center's price without any bargaining. They'll even go lower.

I went into the closer store about a month ago, looking at PA systems. They had a Yamaha system for $700, that I then saw at Guitar Center for less than $500. I did buy a guitar cable (from a local company) and a t-shirt with the name of the store.


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I would like to think that as long as there are musicians who are willing to go a little out of there way to shop at a store where the sales people know what they are talking about, the ma and pop music shops will be able to survive. Maybe that's naive. My own experience is that whenever I go to the big box stores (namely GC) they don't have what I want, they don't know what I'm talking about, and the sales people try to talk me into settling for what they have in stock.

From now on, I'm only shopping at stores that cater to actual musicians and not just people who want to buy more toys. Is anyone with me on this?


I'm already there. I can't even imagine that I would buy from anything else, but a store that specializes in music instruments.

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But say, for instance, you want to buy a Strat, and you walk into a Best Buy (or Target or Wal-Mart or whatever) and see exactly what you've been looking for at a good price. You spend some hands-on time with it and you feel it's perfect for you. Are you going to pass it up just because it's not a traditional music store?

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But say, for instance, you want to buy a Strat, and you walk into a Best Buy (or Target or Wal-Mart or whatever) and see exactly what you've been looking for at a good price. You spend some hands-on time with it and you feel it's perfect for you. Are you going to pass it up just because it's not a traditional music store?


Probabaly not. I wouldn't trust the store for that type of thing. And.....with the days of the internet........I can always find a good price, and places like Guitar Center have always matched (price wise) what I've found online. They only thing they do.......is go to their computer to check out the lower price, themselves.

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But say, for instance, you want to buy a Strat, and you walk into a Best Buy (or Target or Wal-Mart or whatever) and see exactly what you've been looking for at a good price. You spend some hands-on time with it and you feel it's perfect for you. Are you going to pass it up just because it's not a traditional music store?
All comes down to pricing what price are they going to be told they have to maintain to keep the product line and what deals can they do with it That is the tight rope the distributor has to walk to try and keep as many distibution points as possible and move as much priduct while maintaining quility and service.

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When Fender first went into Best Buy it was about 1 1/2 years ago and it was a disaster with stuff not set up well at all. Prices also were high. But when a thouroughly damaged Highway One with no viable volume control was described as "that's the greasebucket" I headed over to GC and found Baby Blues, my slightly upgraded Highway One, for a song. Lately, I've noticed Best Buy is getting a lot better. Some training's been happening and whatnot.

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