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Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey slams Texas coast
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:48 am
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Wait, there has been a Hurricane and major flooding in Texas. Do the TV networks know about this? :shock:


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Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey slams Texas coast
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:09 pm
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Re: The gators, Mike. I questioned that before the storm hit, and now, along with a gator farm that has overflowed, and dangerous snakes, fire ants are floating along in clumps that they construct!

The downplaying of all this is likely similar to knowledge but silence on sharks at tourist sites. There is a chance of panic, and even more upsetting of the hurricane victims that need to evacuate. Then there are the youngsters. Tough call.
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As for coverage by the networks, monopolies and sharing of resources have changed the game of profits and ability. Live TV for many broadcasters amounts to breakfast shows, and a dumbed down newscast. The rest is begged, borrowed, stolen, or repeated, to add to the collection of pre-recordings. At times, if it can't be done by remote control it doesn't get done at all. I wouldn't wait for a lot of coverage on the networks.

Most of the programming comes from a master source from a central facility, usually in a major city far from the action. There are limited or no windows (openings) available to change the mostly automated profitable programming and, even if there were, it costs a bundle to do live satellite broadcasts today (especially on an irregular basis). Satellite transmission is either filled by negotiated service or, very often, first come first served with a presented time line that can be short or long depending what is available at the time. Trimmed down staff makes experienced staff for those once in a blue moon occasions a rarity. Other considerations are involved. In some cases they not only want you to switch channels, they want you to purchase them. Movies are on the movie channels, News is on the News channels, and so on. Add to that - the Internet where the networks are headed, and who knows what the end result will be? Many channels with the same coverage or one channel with all the coverage? :wink:
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:24 pm
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Big shout out to the sometimes forgotten radio station deejays!!! Some changed formats completely and began broadcasting storm related news that was "relevant" and in many cases the only source available (battery powered radios) to people isolated from any information. In Corpus Christi they even joined forces across different AM/FM stations to man a super station FM93.9 for 24 hour phone in help lines and broadcasting the questions/answers. So many people were helped & kept informed because of this!!


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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:32 pm
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Big shout out to the sometimes forgotten radio station deejays!!! Some changed formats completely and began broadcasting storm related news that was "relevant" and in many cases the only source available (battery powered radios) to people isolated from any information. In Corpus Christi they even joined forces across different AM/FM stations to man a super station FM93.9 for 24 hour phone in help lines and broadcasting the questions/answers. So many people were helped & kept informed because of this!!
I'll hop on board and shout for that. Great post sfceric64.

Also kudos to the unsung heroes of truckers and amateur radio.

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Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey slams Texas coast
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:27 am
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Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey slams Texas coast
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:31 pm
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Hey y'all, first of thanks for your thoughts and prayers. I was really flippant about this storm at first, considering I've lived here my entire life and I've seen many. But this has ended up being the single most terrifying event of my life. (And it happened less than a week after I returned home from a tour in Scotland... I should've stayed!)

As far as evacuations go, you can bet your life that I wanted to leave more than anything else in the world. But not evacuating the city was 100% the right call. I think it saved many lives, as uncomfortable and scary as it was. After Katrina, when hurricane Rita looked like it might make a direct hit on Houston, evacuations were called for and chaos ensued. I was one of the evacuees and it took us twelve hours to make what is usually a six hour drive. And we were lucky! Some people spent six hours on the roads and just managed to make it halfway across Houston. Over 100 people died because this was also in the middle of a heat wave. Harvey turned the freeways were thousands of people sat stranded during the Rita evacuations into rivers within hours of it beginning to rain. Being in your car is literally the most dangerous thing you can be doing in a flood. I think that 500+ people might have died if we had tried to evacuate. I saw an article in the New York Times where they said that Houston is a city of "over 2,000,000 people." There's actually 3.5 million people in Houston, not counting the ~3 million people in the surrounding cities and counties. You absolutely cannot evacuate 6.5 million people in a day or two.

Anyway, I'm fine. The water came within a foot of my car and a couple of yards from the house on all sides. The creek rose so fast that I thought the current might actually send a tree or two into the house, but luckily that didn't happen. My parents' house did flood and my Dad lost his car. They didn't have insurance because we live in a 500 year flood plain (meaning there's a 0.5% chance it will flood in any given year). But they're ok (as well as pets) and somehow none of my gear was damaged or destroyed! The creek is still covering the road where I live with about 8' of water (and it's already gone down significantly). I'm going a bit stir crazy though, because I've been stuck here for almost a week and I desperately want to get out and help! I have plenty of food and water, and our electricity never went out for more than a few minutes at a time.

I think everyone in Houston is going to have rain related PTSD after this though. I'm going to jump out of my skin the next time I hear a raindrop! But I'm so proud of us as a city. I heard someone mention that we don't have evacuees here, just friends, neighbors and guests. I think that's fairly accurate considering how we're all helping one another right now.

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Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey slams Texas coast
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:59 pm
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Hey, Rebecca. Stay safe always. Good to hear that you are a survivor. Sorry to hear about your family's situation.

I live in a city that is known for helping others, whether it's Winter or the Red River flooding the province. Most of the city is on higher ground, and yet in 1950 they called it the flood of the century when it was all under water. Our city population is well short of Houston, though.

We get flood water from North Dakota too. But, we have built flood gates and built a gigantic trench plus diversion to a massive lake. With all of that, volunteers are organized to build dikes and sandbagging is a pretty regular thing around here. I didn't see much early prevention with sandbagging or front end loader dikes in the tv footage from Houston, and I'm wondering if, knowing that the storm was coming, that was a consideration? I know it came fast, but maybe there was some chance of preventing some damage?

I agree with your opinion on the evacuation being held back.

Take care, Becks. Thanks, for letting us know how you are making out. You're pretty special here. Keep us posted.

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Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey slams Texas coast
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:45 pm
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Hey FSB,

It's excellent that your town reacts like that to disasters. You never really know until something happens! I had a good feeling about how Houston would begin the recovery phase though, having seen what people here did after Hurricane Ike. :)

Some people did try to sandbag, but it's generally a lost cause here. The ground is already super saturated, so the water finds its way around barriers quite easily. My Mom tried putting sandbags in front of our door, and the water just came in through the garage, backyard and around the bags anyway. I've also seen people who tried to use inflatable dams around their houses to protect it, but all of those houses took on water anyway, as far as I could tell. (By the way, the dams are inflated with water, not air! Blocking a flood with what would essentially be a glorified pool floaty would be incredibly dumb. :lol: )

We had about 48 hours to prepare for it coming, and we only started to get an idea of how bad it could be about 24 hours out. It really took me by surprise to be honest. I was paying more attention to school than to the weather. I thought it was just going to be a minor storm, not the five day ordeal it was.

I'm actually very, very lucky. I could finally leave today and go see my parents' house. The water only made puddles in my room, and so far the only thing I've lost of any consequence is the case for my 1959 supro lap steel (the lap steel itself was up higher). My entire comic book collection (which I've diligently collected over the course of ten years) was spared! Water all around it, but it stayed dry!

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Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey slams Texas coast
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 3:28 am
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Thanks, for the reply and update, Rebecca. That pretty much explains it. The clay in this area doesn't soak up the water. If anything the water rises on top which can be problematic in the opposite way.

You are so right that bagging needs a good head start in most circumstances, and there are some efficient tools and methods that make the job faster and easier. 48 hours doesn't give you any time to tackle it head on for sure. However, your volunteer help that I've seen is to be applauded, as well as the first responders and all.

Glad that you could make it safely to your parent's house, and that your personal things are, for the most part, kept out of harm.

Comics, huh?! Very cool. I have a first copy of Captain Canuck that was made in Winnipeg, but the comic series didn't last long. I met the originator at the release. I also have an Archie comic that included a tour of Victoria, BC, including the ferry trip from the mainland. Archie comics used to do that in other destinations. I mention this because here's another comic related to my former home town not far from a Spiderman artist up Island:



I hope that eased your mind from the issues for a brief moment. Keep those comics in a good place, Rebecca, and keep safe, well, and dry.

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The Convention Centre and other establishments in this city are full of some 1000+ Indigenous that are from way up north. They have been driven out of their homes from wildfires, and planes have come in from across Canada to help with the evacuation. Many have volunteered too.

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Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey slams Texas coast
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:58 am
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Harvey had left 60 dead and many others homeless.

Another major storm reaching category 5 with 180 mPH winds is slamming Florida with sources claiming New York and New Jersey being heavily affected next week. Due to hurricane Irma's upcoming outbreak Eric Clapton will be probably forced to cancel his US tour dates....

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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:36 pm
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Mother Nature and her hurricanes need, as Cindy Lauder would say, "A Bi*ch Slap!" :evil:
As for Slowhand, I wasn't aware, based on his health situation, that Eric was still into touring. Glad to hear he's up to it when and if he can, however.

My sincere thoughts go to out to family and friends of victims from past, present, and future storms.

Behind the raging storms come light winds that offer calmness, and with them the sun warms hearts and brightens new days. - FSB

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Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey slams Texas coast
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:02 pm
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It's up to 185mph sustained winds. The minimum central pressure has dropped to 916 MB, at 8:00PM EDT. It takes about 4 hours for the winds to increase after the minimum central pressure drops. At or around 11:00 PM EDT, the sustained winds could be significant higher. Not What I Wanted to Happen.

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Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey slams Texas coast
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:25 pm
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It's up to 185mph sustained winds. The minimum central pressure has dropped to 916 MB, at 8:00PM EDT. It takes about 4 hours for the winds to increase after the minimum central pressure drops. At or around 11:00 PM EDT, the sustained winds could be significant higher. Not What I Wanted to Happen.
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If I read this correctly, you're in line for this crap, Glen? I hope I have that wrong. But, if so, take care.

However, it is, 185mph is not to be taken lightly.

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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:24 pm
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It's up to 185mph sustained winds. The minimum central pressure has dropped to 916 MB, at 8:00PM EDT. It takes about 4 hours for the winds to increase after the minimum central pressure drops. At or around 11:00 PM EDT, the sustained winds could be significant higher. Not What I Wanted to Happen.
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If I read this correctly, you're in line for this crap, Glen? I hope I have that wrong. But, if so, take care.

However, it is, 185mph is not to be taken lightly.

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From the 8:00 PM EDT advisory, it's showing the storm saying Howdy to me at about 2:00 PM Sunday. There is a lot of error in the cone at this time. Until it get's closer, that's when it narrows down where point of impact could be. It also may be a bit lower in sustained wind force. Possibly down to 140-145 MPH. Still a major storm though.

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Mr. Nylon wrote:
Fender Strat Brat wrote:
Mr. Nylon wrote:
It's up to 185mph sustained winds. The minimum central pressure has dropped to 916 MB, at 8:00PM EDT. It takes about 4 hours for the winds to increase after the minimum central pressure drops. At or around 11:00 PM EDT, the sustained winds could be significant higher. Not What I Wanted to Happen.
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If I read this correctly, you're in line for this crap, Glen? I hope I have that wrong. But, if so, take care.

However, it is, 185mph is not to be taken lightly.

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From the 8:00 PM EDT advisory, it's showing the storm saying Howdy to me at about 2:00 PM Sunday. There is a lot of error in the cone at this time. Until it get's closer, that's when it narrows down where point of impact could be. It also may be a bit lower in sustained wind force. Possibly down to 140-145 MPH. Still a major storm though.

Is there any chance that an evacuation would be called?

Stay Safe
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