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Post subject: Re: Photobucket Ransomware is Extorsion
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:10 am
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Lightnin MN wrote:
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I just poured a very tall Vodka & Tonic, hooked up a 2TB external drive, and after about 90 min. and several hundred mouse clicks later, I reclaimed EVERYTHING from photobucket !!

Tmw., I'll pour an equally tall Vodka & Tonic, open an acct. at Imgur.com, invest 90 min. and several hundred more mouse clicks and upload everything there.
. . .
That will of course take longer than 90 min., likely several hundred more mouse clicks and certainly several more equally tall Vodka & Tonics but it'll be like it never happened (except of course for the Detox). :shock: :shock: Then I'm gonna email PB and tell them to close my acct. w/ the accompanying banner I hi-jacked here:
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Easy-Peasy !!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

cheers!
Looks to be a plan with finesse to me, Jim. Just be sure to sit down throughout the task at hand, and maybe grab a beer for backup. :wink:
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Post subject: Re: Photobucket Ransomware is Extorsion
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:27 am
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Lightnin MN wrote:
:roll: :roll:
I just poured a very tall Vodka & Tonic, hooked up a 2TB external drive, and after about 90 min. and several hundred mouse clicks later, I reclaimed EVERYTHING from photobucket !!

Tmw., I'll pour an equally tall Vodka & Tonic, open an acct. at Imgur.com, invest 90 min. and several hundred more mouse clicks and upload everything there.
. . .
That will of course take longer than 90 min., likely several hundred more mouse clicks and certainly several more equally tall Vodka & Tonics but it'll be like it never happened (except of course for the Detox). :shock: :shock: Then I'm gonna email PB and tell them to close my acct. w/ the accompanying banner I hi-jacked here:
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Easy-Peasy !!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

cheers!
Looks to be a plan with finesse to me, Jim. Just be sure to sit down throughout the task at hand, and maybe grab a beer for backup. :wink:
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I am in the process of reclaiming and than getting the He%% out of there
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Post subject: Re: Photobucket Ransomware is Extorsion
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:32 pm
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Just got hit with that yesterday. Went straight to Photobucket, saw it would cost $400 a year to have them do 3rd party hosting and immediately canceled my account.

I was using 4% of my free account's space and only for hosting pics here on the Fender Forum so it made no sense to continue. I might have been tempted to stay if there had been a reasonably priced hosting plan for light users like me but the whole "upgrade" was handled so badly that canceling with some negative feedback sounded like a better idea. It was therapeutic. :)

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Post subject: Re: Photobucket Ransomware is Extorsion
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:52 pm
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john.bohn wrote:
Just got hit with that yesterday. Went straight to Photobucket, saw it would cost $400 a year to have them do 3rd party hosting and immediately canceled my account.

I was using 4% of my free account's space and only for hosting pics here on the Fender Forum so it made no sense to continue. I might have been tempted to stay if there had been a reasonably priced hosting plan for light users like me but the whole "upgrade" was handled so badly that canceling with some negative feedback sounded like a better idea. It was therapeutic.


Yeah, they tried to have their way with me too -- I told them to stick a fork in me, I'm done.

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Post subject: Re: Photobucket Ransomware is Extorsion
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:38 am
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This site has been good for me, so far https://postimg.org it's free too :)

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Post subject: Re: Photobucket Ransomware is Extorsion
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 3:48 am
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john.bohn wrote:
Just got hit with that yesterday. Went straight to Photobucket, saw it would cost $400 a year to have them do 3rd party hosting and immediately canceled my account.

I was using 4% of my free account's space and only for hosting pics here on the Fender Forum so it made no sense to continue. I might have been tempted to stay if there had been a reasonably priced hosting plan for light users like me but the whole "upgrade" was handled so badly that canceling with some negative feedback sounded like a better idea. It was therapeutic.


Yeah, they tried to have their way with me too -- I told them to stick a fork in me, I'm done.

:evil:

Arjay

And I told them where to stick the fork and other much larger items. :evil:

I have multiple backups of all my photos here and another full backup to an iCloud photo sharing account so there was no way Photobucket was going to force me to pay. Still, all those years of broken Fender Forums links... what a waste and a nasty thing to do with no warning.

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Post subject: Re: Photobucket Ransomware is Extorsion
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:57 am
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The elephant in the room is Fender not providing some storage space to its users. The attached images are not a huge volume, and it would ensure that images would be visible on the forums for as long as the forums exist.

At any rate, when offered something for "free", remember the first law of thermodynamics*, TANSTAAFL** and Gershwin's law***.

*: You can't get something for nothing.
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Post subject: Re: Photobucket Ransomware is Extorsion
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:25 am
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arth1 wrote:
The elephant in the room is Fender not providing some storage space to its users. The attached images are not a huge volume, and it would ensure that images would be visible on the forums for as long as the forums exist.

BJ's singing, '(Hey Won't You Play) Another Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song'

Willie might say, 'You Always Hurt The One You Love'

A Stone's throw away 'You Can't Always Get What You Want'

Then there's the Ral Donner way to look at it: 'You Don't Know What You Got (Until You Lose It)'

I prefer to 'Blame It On The Bossa Nova' but George Jones would choose, 'Choices' :wink:
But, I hear ya arth1. 'Wouldn't It Be Nice'

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Post subject: Re: Photobucket Ransomware is Extorsion
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:04 pm
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arth1 wrote:
It's their service, and they're free to do what they like within the terms you accepted. Including changing the terms. You should have read the fine print before relying on a free service. Nobody forced you to hand them a copy of your pictures and not keep copies. This has nothing to do with ransomware, and all to do with reducing the cost of freeloaders. If they don't survive as a business, they're not going to serve your pictures either.

I could expect nothing more from you, arth1, than the idiotic response provided above, proving that you are most likely a depraved disciple of Ann Rand, the Russian novelist, in addition to being a general knucklehead, who is prone to making up novel electric guitar theories, based on mere conjecture, absent any basis in fact.
Because Photobucket ("PB") may be free to do whatever they want to do with their web site, including changing the terms of usage, doesn't mean that the actions taken by PB are ethical or should be tolerated as somehow being a proper business practice.

PB invited account holders to use their photo hosting website for free, for small photo accounts, for purposes that included message board posting.
PB's business model was to use advertising to collect revenue on small free accounts, and most likely sold user information to third parties.
Arth1, this directly contradicts your absurd suggestion that PB free account holders should somehow be considered to be "freeloaders ".

Without warning, PB changed their software so as to block all PB hosted photos from being displayed on all web message boards, while demanding payment of $400.00 per year to recover the photos.
This is directly analogous to the unethical and illegal practices of ransomeware distributers, without technically breaking any criminal laws.
Make no mistake; PB's actions and payment demand constitutes a form of extortion.
While this practice may not rise to a criminal level, it is none the less an extremely unethical business practice.
All free PB account holders, and all message board owners, who have had their message board services compromised by PB's unethical actions, have been "injured" by PB's unethical business practices.

jmattis wrote:
People use these sites as their sole source for storing their pictures??

Of course not, jmattis.
That's just arth 1, being arth1; ....making up nonsense once again.
Unknown to any rational reader of this thread, is why arth1 would assert in response to my initial post that "Nobody forced you to hand free them a copy of your pictures and not keep copies".
Not surprisingly, this assertion lacks any relationship, or factual basis, to anything that I posted in the initiation of this thread.

If PB wanted to change their terms of use policy, the ethical thing to do would be to freeze current accounts, not block account holder's pictures and attempt to extort $400.00 from account holders, for access to their hosted photos on PB, as may be posted on message boards.
If PB wanted to discontinue the free storage of pictures, they should at least have had the decency to advise free account holders that the service would be discontinued in 6 month, so that free account holders could take appropriate alternative actions, or pay the fee demanded.
Instead, PB decided to engage in the unannounced blocking of free picture hosting and the extortion of it's free account holders, should they wish to re-establish picture hosting with PB.

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The elephant in the room is Fender not providing some storage space to its users. The attached images are not a huge volume, and it would ensure that images would be visible on the forums for as long as the forums exist.

The Fender lounge, like all other message boards, is exactly what the name implies.
IT IS A MESSAGE BOARD!!
The Fender Lounge, and all other Internet message boards are NOT photo hosting sites.
There is NO elephant in the room; only a knucklehead, who would choose to blame Fender for the despicable actions of PB.


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Post subject: Re: Photobucket Ransomware is Extorsion
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:27 pm
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So...has anyone tried any of the alternatives?

https://www.lifewire.com/free-image-hos ... es-3486329

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Post subject: Re: Photobucket Ransomware is Extorsion
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:09 am
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Miami Mike wrote:
So...has anyone tried any of the alternatives?

https://www.lifewire.com/free-image-hos ... es-3486329

I have been trying Flickr and liking it. It's a pleasure to be able to upload, organize and look through photos without constantly being interrupted by ads. The constant barrage of pop ups was making Photobucket so slow that it was almost unusable and they never had a paid plan that appealed to me. Flickr does and it's reasonably priced by the month and by the year.

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Post subject: Re: Photobucket Ransomware is Extorsion
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:14 am
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john.bohn wrote:
Miami Mike wrote:
So...has anyone tried any of the alternatives?

https://www.lifewire.com/free-image-hos ... es-3486329

I have been trying Flickr and liking it. It's a pleasure to be able to upload, organize and look through photos without constantly being interrupted by ads. The constant barrage of pop ups was making Photobucket so slow that it was almost unusable and they never had a paid plan that appealed to me. Flickr does and it's reasonably priced by the month and by the year.

John
i think John makes a good point here about checking out the paid plan(s) as a prerequisite. Whether it's used or not, this could prevent a lot of work and headaches need be (even if put into action on a temporary basis); although, nothing is for certain in cases like this as history shows.

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Post subject: Re: Photobucket Ransomware is Extorsion
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:49 pm
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It seems all of us who dislike the new PB policy are in a minority, and of course wrong:
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Corpus said that “initial results for the Company are positive. This path to a more sustainable business model allows us to develop an even more robust product to meet our customers’ needs.”

“We are grateful for our customers’ continued support,” he added.

Photobucket "Official Statement" in a blog (funny enough, without popup ads...)


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Post subject: Re: Photobucket Ransomware is Extorsion
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:01 pm
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.... just off to close my PB account. (scum !) :|
Flickr is good ! :D

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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:28 pm
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