It is currently Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:15 pm

All times are UTC - 7 hours



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 
Author Message
Post subject: Effects
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:24 am
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:05 am
Posts: 1
HI everyone,
I have a question in regard to effects being used on various songs. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated:
Always (Bon Jovi)
Spooky (Classics Five)
Groovin' (Rascals)
Is there a series of effects that were most common in the late 60's early 70's? I have found little information online.
Thanks again!


Top
Profile
Fender Play Winter Sale 2020
Post subject: Re: Effects
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:37 am
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:38 am
Posts: 12975
Location: Canada
GuitarGirl22 wrote:
. . .
Is there a series of effects that were most common in the late 60's early 70's? I have found little information online.
Thanks again!
Hi, GuitarGirl22. Welcome to the Forum. Without specifics to those songs, along with Cry Baby, Wah Wah pedals and tape delay per se, plate reverbs, and spring reverbs (especially Fender's) were all the rage, and today there are many electronic versions that attempt to reproduce a similar reverberation while spring reverb is still available in some limited form. The 60s and 70s were a time of effects experimentation and, although some sounds are distinct and recognizable, it sometimes is hard to pin down exactly what is used in a recording because of variations or the recording engineer's equipment or ingenuity. Some gear may be modified. I hope others will be able to help answer these questions, but to get you started here is an article:

Hardware effects:
https://www.vintageguitar.com/24456/25- ... e-effects/

It should be noted that many of these effects are no longer available or they are expensive in their original form. Cheaper copies or alternatives in most cases are available.

FSB

_________________
Hello, big guitar. Meet my little fingers.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Effects
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:43 am
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:48 am
Posts: 26417
Location: Tombstone Territory
Don't forget tremolo.

Some obvious examples:

Susie Q -- Creedence
Crimson And Clover -- Tommy James
Various tunes by The Hollies, The Turtles, The Electric Prunes, Shadows Of Knight, etc.

Arjay

_________________
"Here's why reliability is job one: A great sounding amp that breaks down goes from being a favorite piece of gear to a useless piece of crap in less time than it takes to read this sentence." -- BRUCE ZINKY


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Effects
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:16 am
Offline
Rock Star
Rock Star
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:50 pm
Posts: 7998
Location: ʎɹʇunoɔ ǝsoɹ pןıʍ
Always - Bon Jovi
(assuming you mean the sound used on the Telecaster solo that occurs roughly around the 4 minute mark)
A little bit of OD/Dist and a healthy dose of Uni-Vibe set to oscillate fairly quickly.
Fulltone Uni-Vibe

Spooky - Classics IV
(assuming you mean the strumming rhythm guitar)
A small amount of OD/Dist and some chorus and reverb.
The other rhythm guitar doing the short "hits" is a clean single coil sound set to be bright and thin with reverb.

Groovin' - The Young Rascals
The single note up/down runs that follow the chords use some kind of tremolo effect or possibly a rotary speaker (Leslie) emulator.
Strymon Leslie Emulator
Fulltone Tremolo

The links (in red) I provided are examples of good quality, reliable and very good sounding pedals and they all have my full recommendation if you plan to play a lot of music with those kinds of effects.
They may be a little more expensive than some others but I think they are worth the price.

_________________
Image
Just think of how awesome a guitar player you could have been by now if you had only spent the last 10 years practicing instead of obsessing over pickups and roasted maple necks.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Effects
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:47 am
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:38 am
Posts: 12975
Location: Canada
Tremelo for sure was and still is a major player.

Actually, I was hoping somebody else would chime in too. Thanks, Arjay. After all, who could forget the Tremeloes. :lol:

GuitarGirl22, for the sixties you might want to read up on Phil Spector and his famous Wall of Sound method that could maximize mono effects. Another similar producer was Esquivel in stereo, and there are others that played with stereo. That was recording as opposed to live sound, but it may be an interesting read. Spector for sure.

There are all kinds of video and articles like that which may be overkill; but, often you'll run into some ideas and background on how such a song was made. Sometimes the studio made a mistake by putting a tape on backwards or using the wrong speed. Today you'll find amps and components that do a backward playback effect.

You'll also find backstage videos on YouTube and elsewhere. There are many band websites on the Net (from the band, the fan sites, and sometimes from manufactures or gear related sites.) Sometimes, they'll simply list the gear the band used, and sometimes they'll go into detail how it was used. Great info all of this: but, it can be overwhelming and more than you'll ever need, so my suggestion is to keep it simple. With a well rounded knowledge you should be able to create your own version of the sixties/seventies quite well.

FSB

_________________
Hello, big guitar. Meet my little fingers.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Effects
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:00 am
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:48 am
Posts: 26417
Location: Tombstone Territory
Fender Strat Brat wrote:
my suggestion is to keep it simple. With a well rounded knowledge you should be able to create your own version of the sixties/seventies quite well.


+1

A true fuzzbox, a wah pedal, a Uni-Vibe, an MXR phaser, and a decent Fender amp with reverb and tremolo will yield 99.9% of all the 60's/70's tones you'll need to recreate that vibe.

Arjay

_________________
"Here's why reliability is job one: A great sounding amp that breaks down goes from being a favorite piece of gear to a useless piece of crap in less time than it takes to read this sentence." -- BRUCE ZINKY


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Effects
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:38 pm
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:38 am
Posts: 12975
Location: Canada
BMW-KTM wrote:
Always - Bon Jovi
(assuming you mean the sound used on the Telecaster solo that occurs roughly around the 4 minute mark)
A little bit of OD/Dist and a healthy dose of Uni-Vibe set to oscillate fairly quickly.
Fulltone Uni-Vibe

Spooky - Classics IV
(assuming you mean the strumming rhythm guitar)
A small amount of OD/Dist and some chorus and reverb.
The other rhythm guitar doing the short "hits" is a clean single coil sound set to be bright and thin with reverb.

Groovin' - The Young Rascals
The single note up/down runs that follow the chords use some kind of tremolo effect or possibly a rotary speaker (Leslie) emulator.
Strymon Leslie Emulator
Fulltone Tremolo

The links (in red) I provided are examples of good quality, reliable and very good sounding pedals and they all have my full recommendation if you plan to play a lot of music with those kinds of effects.
They may be a little more expensive than some others but I think they are worth the price.
Great additional info. Matt. Especially the chorus and rotary which was extremely popular in the 60s for those lucky to have it. Nowadays, fortunately simulation makes it more accessible (but, nothing beats a Leslie IMHO).

We had this baby in our studio for short period (long enough for me to play with). It's a good example to show one method of rotating speakers in a cabinet:



Here's another of the other cabs we had. The Leslie:



And now Fender's Vibratone answer with a guitar:



Other similar videos from other manufacturers using rotary systems with guitar and/or keyboards, etc. are available too. But, for the newly informed, this hopefully gives you a taste of that era which continues today.

FSB

_________________
Hello, big guitar. Meet my little fingers.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Effects
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:54 pm
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:51 pm
Posts: 25350
Location: Witness Protection Program
This link has some 60s pedals that you might find helpful :

http://www.collectorsweekly.com/guitars/effects-pedals

On the Classic IV version of "Spooky" I always just used a bit of reverb. You can search
each song for other details at Songfacts :

http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=3862

Good luck and welcome to the forums!

_________________
Being able to play and enjoy music is a gift that's often taken for granted.

Don't leave home without it!


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Effects
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:03 pm
Offline
Rock Star
Rock Star

Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:37 am
Posts: 4099
Location: New York
GuitarGirl22 wrote:
Is there a series of effects that were most common in the late 60's early 70's? I have found little information online.

This is a great place to start: LINK

_________________
Please subscribe to my Image Channel!
https://www.youtube.com/user/b7567


Top
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 7 hours

Fender Play Winter Sale 2020

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: