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Post subject: NEW (VINTAGE) MICROPHONE DAY
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:07 am
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New Vintage Microphone Day at Casa del Los Armadillos!

It's a Turner model 33D...I have to do some more research, but I believe it's from the early-to-mid 1950's. This thing is clean-- and heavy! I love the Art Deco-meets-Googie styling, too.

It's a little hot for harp, but I haven't had the opportunity to run to through my usual bag of tricks (aka Rocktron Hush and Lone Wolf Blues Company Harp Break pedals) to see if the beast can be tamed.

(To all the Doctor Who fans out there--this looks like a microphone that the Cybermen would use if they started a band...)

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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:17 am
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If it ever breaks, it would make a great hood ornament on a car.


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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:42 am
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That mic would look right at home in this guy's hand......

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Cool find!

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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:33 pm
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Congrats Matt !

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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:52 pm
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Cool microphone! 8)

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Post subject: Re: NEW (VINTAGE) MICROPHONE DAY
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:18 am
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Thank you...it joins the ranks of my other oddball mics of various vintages:

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The brown Astatic 200s in the bottom center of the pic is my favorite go-to mic for harp...it's from ~1946, according to a very reliable expert on these types of things.

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Post subject: Re: NEW (VINTAGE) MICROPHONE DAY
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:49 pm
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That's pretty cool, Matt!!

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Post subject: Re: NEW (VINTAGE) MICROPHONE DAY
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:27 pm
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Nice heard of vintage mics
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Post subject: Re: NEW (VINTAGE) MICROPHONE DAY
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:53 pm
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Nice collection!
I'm a bit envious, I admit. When playing blues harp with a mic, it's usually an SM57. Nothing wrong with those - they're workhorses and I know exactly how they sound and how close to hold them, but... now I feel like scouring CL and Reverb to see whether I can find something vintage :)

Would those old bulkier mics work on a stand for tin flute too, or would they cut off the upper registers? A Blue Spark is the best I have for that right now. SM57/58s don't work that well, as the whistle moves around a bit while playing.


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Post subject: Re: NEW (VINTAGE) MICROPHONE DAY
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:41 pm
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I remember when lavaliers were heavy enough to be stand mikes. :lol:
Great hobby and find, Matt. If only some of us would have appreciated the older and often now pricier gear instead of replacing them with the new fangled replacements simply because they were new. Some are exceptions, of course.

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Post subject: Re: NEW (VINTAGE) MICROPHONE DAY
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:30 pm
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arth1 wrote:
Nice collection!
I'm a bit envious, I admit. When playing blues harp with a mic, it's usually an SM57. Nothing wrong with those - they're workhorses and I know exactly how they sound and how close to hold them, but... now I feel like scouring CL and Reverb to see whether I can find something vintage :)

Would those old bulkier mics work on a stand for tin flute too, or would they cut off the upper registers? A Blue Spark is the best I have for that right now. SM57/58s don't work that well, as the whistle moves around a bit while playing.

I have an SM57 with a "Bulletizer" attachment from Blows Me Away Products*. It allows for easier cupping and better control of feedback. See link below:

http://www.blowsmeaway.com/bulletizer.html

But I really prefer the vintage Astatic 200s mic for sound and comfort...and it looks cool, too.

As far as mic-ing a tin whistle: I don't know. By "upper register," do mean higher frequencies, or the holes higher on the body of the instrument?

Either way, I think the larger/taller "Elvis" style mics may or may not help you.

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The mic on the lower left corner of the picture is an 1950's(?) Astatic model 77; it picks up higher frequencies fairly well, such as a Hohner "Vest Pocket" Harp.

Directly above the Astatic 77 is a Realistic 33-905...a retro-styled Realistic mic that is now old enough to be considered almost vintage. Like most Realistic-brand mics, it isn't very rich or full-sounding, and does well projecting brighter tones.

However, the element/cartridge/whatever inside both of these mics are similarly sized to the mouthpiece/microphone cartridge in an old telephone handpiece...they're not a element as long as the body itself, so it's not like there's a cartridge all along the inside of the casing picking up each area of the instrument (in this example, your tin whistle).

Likewise, I have a modern Shure Super 55 mic--looks old, but has the guts of a Shure Beta 58 inside of it...gives a rich, powerful sound, punchy and full...looks vintage, performs modern, all-around best live vocal mic I own...but it's still a smaller, round element inside.


*I am not affiliated with this company, other than as a customer...

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Post subject: Re: NEW (VINTAGE) MICROPHONE DAY
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:20 pm
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arth1 wrote:
Would those old bulkier mics work on a stand for tin flute too, or would they cut off the upper registers? A Blue Spark is the best I have for that right now. SM57/58s don't work that well, as the whistle moves around a bit while playing.


Yeah Whistles and flutes can be tough in live situations and recordings, I have had luck with using an AKG C414 EB but theses are pricey especially if you want a matched set, up to $6000 for a pair, I have used Sennheiser md421 with pretty good luck, though this mic is cheaper than the AKG it still is a little pricey $350
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Post subject: Re: NEW (VINTAGE) MICROPHONE DAY
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:02 pm
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Screamin Armadillo wrote:
As far as mic-ing a tin whistle: I don't know. By "upper register," do mean higher frequencies, or the holes higher on the body of the instrument?

If you blow softly like on a recorder, you're in the low register. Soft.
If you blow a little harder, you go up an octave, and are in the middle register. Crisp.
If you blow even harder, you go up another octave, and are in the upper register. Shrill.
(It just becomes much harder to play, as you have to regulate the air pressure.)
Most tunes are in a mix of middle and low register, but you sometimes go up.

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Either way, I think the larger/taller "Elvis" style mics may or may not help you.

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The mic on the lower left corner of the picture is an 1950's(?) Astatic model 77; it picks up higher frequencies fairly well, such as a Hohner "Vest Pocket" Harp.

That's a thought! The main problem with the Shure is that the volume drops off exponentially with distance, and especially for high frequencies, so it's hard to get consistent volume unless you can hold it at the same distance. Works great for harp, once I figured out how to hold it.
The Blue works better for the penny whistle, but it's also not something you clip to a mic stand. Nice on a table stand for recording, though.

The tin flute / penny whistle is a relatively easy instrument to pick up for those who play the blues harp, and already know how to regulate air pressure. I like picking up a whistle or harp or fiddle at times. At jams, sometimes there are just too many guitar players.


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mud wrote:
Yeah Whistles and flutes can be tough in live situations and recordings, I have had luck with using an AKG C414 EB but theses are pricey especially if you want a matched set, up to $6000 for a pair, I have used Sennheiser md421 with pretty good luck, though this mic is cheaper than the AKG it still is a little pricey $350

Given that my priciest penny whistle was $120, and most of them are more like $20-30, I'd say so :)
I'll keep the Senn in mind when checking out the used market!


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Post subject: Re: NEW (VINTAGE) MICROPHONE DAY
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:33 am
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arth1 wrote:
mud wrote:
Yeah Whistles and flutes can be tough in live situations and recordings, I have had luck with using an AKG C414 EB but theses are pricey especially if you want a matched set, up to $6000 for a pair, I have used Sennheiser md421 with pretty good luck, though this mic is cheaper than the AKG it still is a little pricey $350

Given that my priciest penny whistle was $120, and most of them are more like $20-30, I'd say so :)
I'll keep the Senn in mind when checking out the used market!


Harmonicas sound real nice using the Senn MD 421,l I use-to use them all the time when I was in a band, they sure can take a lot of SPL
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