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Post subject: Re: Mixing board question
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:43 am
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Nikininja, I hear what you're saying about placement. I remember the first time we set up the Expo's behind us at practice, and than at the first couple gigs. I couldn't believe the volume we put out with no feedback in that configuration. If you look way back in the threads I commented on it many times. It was very convenient and made my life easy. We just had to abort that configuration after the mixer changed. In my mind I knew that that was the only change but I couldn't figure out why it would change that much. But in hindsight, the point that was made that on the Peavey the gain and volume were one in the same so that kind of made sense.

Now I've had about a week and 1/2 to play with the board and get it down for my application.

Last Wed I had a get together with two retired coworkers, we get together about once a month and just do some strumming and playing. I asked them to come to my place so I could test the new board. In my mind while we were playing I was thinking "wow, the vocals sure sound cleaner and the fx are really nice." But I thought I'd keep it to myself and see if they had any opinions. About 1/2 way through the night they both commented on how much improved the sound was through my Expo with this board. This was in my music room, about 12 x 12 so not really a test on feedback as much as just in the use of the board.

So that's one successful test. Now tonight I'm getting together with the rock band to set up all 3 Expo's plus the sub and run it through it's paces. I'm at least convinced that the sound will be better now, even if we can't put the Expo's behind us like we did when we first got them we'll still have an improvement in our sound.


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Post subject: Re: Mixing board question
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:38 pm
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So last night was the big test run.

We set up in the biggest space available, a 3 1/2 car garage, cement floors, all walls and ceiling drywalled and doors closed.

I duplicated our live setup, 3 Expo's across the back of the "stage" area with the sub chained to the end. 3 vocal mics about 8 ft in front of the Expo's. All the Expo's and sub wide open, set the gains and started playing. Turned it up as loud as I could get it to go, too loud for comfort in that space actually.

No feedback, clear vocals with some nice fx options courtesy of the new Mackie board. The ONLY time I got feedback was when I played around with the eq on my mic and I turned the highs WAY up just as a test.

Other than that we're good to go. For us in Central WI and the venues we play this plan works well for us. I couldn't be happier that it works, even if I don't get exactly how it works.

Yes, it seems obvious that when the only change was the mixer that it was the culprit, I just didn't know why that would be the case. I wish I knew more about this stuff. 8)


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Post subject: Re: Mixing board question
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:27 pm
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Thanks Chris. Good to know your sound is working again.

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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:45 am
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That's terrific news, Chris. Looks like you have the upper hand with those gremlins. Nice work on the troubleshooting and remedy. That EQ adjustment will come in handy should the venue change IMHO. Now go forth and break a leg.

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Post subject: Re: Mixing board question
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:28 pm
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Great stuff!!

Glad you were able to solve your problems.

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Yes, it seems obvious that when the only change was the mixer that it was the culprit, I just didn't know why that would be the case. I wish I knew more about this stuff. 8)
I believe some PA gear is just better engineered. I don't know that for a fact but it's been my experience that some less expensive boards just don't work as well. Mackie gear is known for their smooth, soft tones. That could be part of the equation.

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