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Post subject: 5 Dallas LEO's Murdered
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:14 am
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Guns and the NRA to blame, no doubt.
We had a thread on Cassius Clay dying, and I don't think he was connected with Strats or the musicsphere, so I figured these 5 Police Officers deserved a mention.
We'll see....
Home grown terrorists and He who incites them come in many forms...


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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:07 am
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JakTors wrote:
Guns and the NRA to blame, no doubt.
We had a thread on Cassius Clay dying, and I don't think he was connected with Strats or the musicsphere, so I figured these 5 Police Officers deserved a mention.
We'll see....
Home grown terrorists and He who incites them come in many forms...


+1000

If these people should use a knife, there'd never been any such murder.


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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:30 am
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If these people should use a knife, there'd never been any such murder.


Whatever you say, cupcake......

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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:48 am
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Retroverbial wrote:
stratele52 wrote:
If these people should use a knife, there'd never been any such murder.


Whatever you say, cupcake......

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013 ... ation?lite

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There alway exception on everything.These are chinese street gang.

Most people (if not all ) with guns won't have the guts to use à knive to kill.

Guns are like a remote control we use to play game, knive is another story.


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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:21 am
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JakTors wrote:
We had a thread on Cassius Clay dying, and I don't think he was connected with Strats or the musicsphere, so I figured these 5 Police Officers deserved a mention.

Back a few years ago this forum used to get a LOT of "off topic" stuff, and it was a lot more interesting and thriving because of it. So you won't get any static from me.

Now back to our originally scheduled programming where we debate the pro's vs con's of gun control...

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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:39 am
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I'm just waiting for how the NRA will try to spin this to claim this wouldn't have happened if more good citizens had guns... This time, they will have a hard sell.

Guns are like venereal diseases. If we outlaw gonorrhea, only criminals will have the clap, and I'm fine with that.


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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:41 am
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arth1 wrote:
Guns are like venereal diseases. If we outlaw gonorrhea, only criminals will have the clap, and I'm fine with that.


Lest you be unaware (and I'm certain you are), there are products sold by your local grocer that -- when combined in certain specific proportions which I will NOT describe -- may be used to create a WMD of significant potency. Such a concoction would be virtually impervious to detection either by device or sniffer dog and, contingent upon the human density of the intended target area, capable of causing a horrendous number of casualties.

You think about that the next time you're pushing your cart up and down the aisles.

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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:30 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
arth1 wrote:
Guns are like venereal diseases. If we outlaw gonorrhea, only criminals will have the clap, and I'm fine with that.


Lest you be unaware (and I'm certain you are), there are products sold by your local grocer that -- when combined in certain specific proportions which I will NOT describe -- may be used to create a WMD of significant potency. Such a concoction would be virtually impervious to detection either by device or sniffer dog and, contingent upon the human density of the intended target area, capable of causing a horrendous number of casualties.

You think about that the next time you're pushing your cart up and down the aisles.

Arjay

+1000 amen to that.


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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:36 pm
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stratele52 wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:
stratele52 wrote:
If these people should use a knife, there'd never been any such murder.


Whatever you say, cupcake......

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013 ... ation?lite

Arjay


There alway exception on everything.These are chinese street gang.

Most people (if not all ) with guns won't have the guts to use à knive to kill.

Guns are like a remote control we use to play game, knive is another story.

Never bring a knife to a gunfight.


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Post subject: Re: 5 Dallas LEO's Murdered
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:40 pm
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arth1 wrote:
I'm just waiting for how the NRA will try to spin this to claim this wouldn't have happened if more good citizens had guns... This time, they will have a hard sell.

Guns are like venereal diseases. If we outlaw gonorrhea, only criminals will have the clap, and I'm fine with that.

What a dumb analogy.


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Post subject: Re: 5 Dallas LEO's Murdered
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:27 pm
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All I am hearing from the Anti Gun crowd is flat out BS! First and foremost, the GUN is NOT the problem, the PERSON who used it to shoot Police officers trying to provide security for some protesters IS the PROBLEM! PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY you jackwagons!

As for the NRA, have yet to see someone who was a card carrying NRA member be found to be one of these shooters....seems they are always a registered Democrat liberal, a fact that the news very rarely if ever put into their "News" stories.

Just because YOU are afraid of Guns does NOT give you the right to deny me my constitutional right to own and carry one.


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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:37 pm
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T2Stratman wrote:
All I am hearing from the Anti Gun crowd is flat out BS! First and foremost, the GUN is NOT the problem, the PERSON who used it to shoot Police officers trying to provide security for some protesters IS the PROBLEM! PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY........

Just because YOU are afraid of Guns does NOT give you the right to deny me my constitutional right to own and carry one.

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Retroverbial wrote:
arth1 wrote:
Guns are like venereal diseases. If we outlaw gonorrhea, only criminals will have the clap, and I'm fine with that.


Lest you be unaware (and I'm certain you are), there are products sold by your local grocer that -- when combined in certain specific proportions which I will NOT describe -- may be used to create a WMD of significant potency. Such a concoction would be virtually impervious to detection either by device or sniffer dog and, contingent upon the human density of the intended target area, capable of causing a horrendous number of casualties.

You think about that the next time you're pushing your cart up and down the aisles.

Arjay

+1000 amen to that.

+1 from me as well!

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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:03 pm
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arth1 wrote:
I'm just waiting for how the NRA will try to spin this to claim this wouldn't have happened if more good citizens had guns... This time, they will have a hard sell.


Art, this category of tragedy won't happen when everybody carries a side arm. A twisted gun man might get off a round or two then it's lights out.

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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:07 pm
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Look, I am not a anti-gun nut, but here is where I think things have gone awry...
1) I do not think it was a good idea to make the AR-15 legal (a semiautomatic version of the M-16 war machine);
2) I don't see the purpose of large-capacity magazines;
3) "Smart guns" (those that can only be shot by their owner via fingerprint, etc.) should be available to purchase for those who want them. They don't need to be mandated for all guns, but should be available. The fact that they are not available because the NRA is afraid they will be made mandatory is stupid.
4) Thorough background checks should be mandatory, closing the private sale and gun-show loopholes.

I am not saying my ideas would have changed Dallas or Sandy Hook, but it could not have made it worse...

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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:17 pm
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.......I am not saying my ideas would have changed Dallas or Sandy Hook, but it could not have made it worse...

Worse for law abiding citizens!

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