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Post subject: Re: Remember this
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:33 pm
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Drew365 wrote:
Maybe Janie was going to wind the pickups herself, so they'd have that authentic Hendrix sound. I guess we'll never know. :lol:


LMAO!

Seems to me that Grand Funk Railroad immortalized her in song.

I think it was titled "T.N.U.C." or some such......

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Post subject: Re: Remember this
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:53 pm
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Screamin Armadillo wrote:

Wasn't the Fireturd X...ahem Firebird X released around this same time? It seems ol' Henry J was in a creative slump during that period...Although the ridiculous adjustments made to the Les Paul lineup for 2015 suggest he doesn't understand the balance between tradition and innovation.


I didn't find the 2015 guitars that bad. Except for that sharpie marker on the headstock. Which did ruin it for me. I was looking at another LP Custom when I went to get my boogie. I came to the conclusion that I don't need another LP to break. The salesman was disappointed, despite me spending more money on the amp. Gibson sales were really really low in the UK last year. The fella explained to me that they'd tried to sell a Traditional for a 3rd of (not off) the RRP. As a minor blemish factory 2nd and couldn't shift it.

Isn't the Dusk Tiger like the FirebirdX in it's programming? I was looking at one earlier for £800. Getting tempted by it.
I think the backlash against those instruments was more to do with the introduction they were given. Henry smashing that SG up was never a good move.
I think Gibson are really stuck with their designs. They seem to be branching out a bit with the Melody Maker series. But I think they're falling victim to their age old "we're the traditional instrument builder" marketing. That they've relied upon for so long. The MinEtune is a wonderful device, I really love it. I have zero tuning issues. And on stage I don't even look like I'm tuning up. Tronical make em for Fender headstocks too. Yet it is reviled. I don't remember the VG getting anywhere near similar levels of backlash. Or the Roland Ready Strat.
Yet both the Firebird X and Disk Tiger can be played as regular passive electric instruments as well as digital wonderthings.

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Post subject: Re: Remember this
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:58 pm
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nikininja wrote:
Screamin Armadillo wrote:

Wasn't the Fireturd X...ahem Firebird X released around this same time? It seems ol' Henry J was in a creative slump during that period...Although the ridiculous adjustments made to the Les Paul lineup for 2015 suggest he doesn't understand the balance between tradition and innovation.


I didn't find the 2015 guitars that bad. Except for that sharpie marker on the headstock. Which did ruin it for me. I was looking at another LP Custom when I went to get my boogie. I came to the conclusion that I don't need another LP to break. The salesman was disappointed, despite me spending more money on the amp. Gibson sales were really really low in the UK last year. The fella explained to me that they'd tried to sell a Traditional for a 3rd of (not off) the RRP. As a minor blemish factory 2nd and couldn't shift it.

Isn't the Dusk Tiger like the FirebirdX in it's programming? I was looking at one earlier for £800. Getting tempted by it.
I think the backlash against those instruments was more to do with the introduction they were given. Henry smashing that SG up was never a good move.
I think Gibson are really stuck with their designs. They seem to be branching out a bit with the Melody Maker series. But I think they're falling victim to their age old "we're the traditional instrument builder" marketing. That they've relied upon for so long. The MinEtune is a wonderful device, I really love it. I have zero tuning issues. And on stage I don't even look like I'm tuning up. Tronical make em for Fender headstocks too. Yet it is reviled. I don't remember the VG getting anywhere near similar levels of backlash. Or the Roland Ready Strat.
Yet both the Firebird X and Disk Tiger can be played as regular passive electric instruments as well as digital wonderthings.

I like the idea of automatic tuners (especially since I use several alternate tunings on our recordings, some of which we never use live, because I don't have a guitar tech and nobody wants to watch me tune my guitar incessantly).
I liked the wider neck.
However, I, too, disliked the "Signature" on the headstock, and the outrageous (and unjustified) price jump.

The looks of the Firebird X were a total turn-off to me, and I didn't think the digital effects were that great--especially for the price.

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Post subject: Re: Remember this
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:37 pm
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Aside from riding somebody else's coattails to undeserved financial bliss, WTF does Janie Hendrix know......about anything?

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Post subject: Re: Remember this
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:00 pm
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Honestly mate, try one. Tronical sell them individually.
I use it on my LP JR. Just so I don't have to take a tuner on stage with me. Nothing but guitar into amp. And that does everything for that band.
At home on my usual once a week drunken jam along to the radio. I use that guitar then too. Just so I can switch quickly from open G or E to concert pitch or semitone down. Depending on whatever song they play. Were I to do that with any other guitar, I'd constantly be tuning and miss all the music. I'm really considering getting one for my Tele. Just for ease with slide tunings.

http://store.tronical-components.com/tr ... on-guitar/

Re-stringing is a bit unusual. And make sure you have plenty of charge in the battery before gigging. They can go weird if the battery is flat. I once had the low E unwind on me for no apparent reason, onstage.
It's not a mega problem though as you can turn the pegs by hand too.

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Post subject: Re: Remember this
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:39 pm
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nikininja wrote:
Honestly mate, try one. Tronical sell them individually.

I love them. Except for a few things:

1: Proprietary batteries means that once Tronical stops selling replacements, you're S.O.L. A standard 9V battery option would have made it a way better investment.
2: The gear ratio for manual tuning is too high. Sometimes you want to do manual minor corrections, and it's hard to do.

But still, they are fast, easy to use, and more than accurate enough for most purposes.
I am all for them as an option, and that's the way that Gibson is going right now, with models with and models without. I wish it could be an option for Fenders too.

In fact, I wish that Fender would go back to what they did in the really old days, with "a la carte" ordering, where you bought a base model, and had the factory make the modifications you wanted, for a price. A special color? No problem.
These days, you have a choice with Custom Shop, but the 2+ year wait time and excessive pricing means it's really not an option. There's no way to ask them to factory modify a standard model. Instead we get fifty different models, neither of which have exactly what we want, and which drives stores crazy.


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Post subject: Re: Remember this
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:43 am
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I look at CS pricing and think, given inflation. Is it really that much different? I get the £150 for a Strat in 1963 as being about £2000 now. So I don't see much difference. Even manufacture is similar between CS and the Fender of yore.
Though I'll say this, Fender fret every guitar by hand. Whether it's a Mexican or a CS. I think that is where they shine. I just don't see equivalent fret work from any other manufacturer at corresponding price points.
Even the Gibson plek'd frets.

Yeah the wait time is a pain. I think if you are just after a non standard colour, that they should be able to do that on their production run models. Price you pay for popularity I suppose.

The battery on my tuners lasts forever. I've had the thing in about 18 months now and charged it 4 times. I can't honestly say I've noticed the tuner ratio being a problem. When I manually tune I use Strobesoft. So I'm aiming pretty accurately.
My only gripe with the thing is the keystones don't look right. I wish I could change em. And the re-stringing business. It's a pain. Not something to do inbetween songs when you break a string.

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Post subject: Re: Remember this
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:49 pm
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nikininja wrote:
I dunno, I don't like Janey at all. I think she's leeching off her half brother. I gotta say though, I went to see Leon Hendrix a while back (in the dark days of my forum absence). What a disaster that gig was. I asked Leon if I could get my picture taken with him. He said, "wait till I get changed into my stage clothes". Seemed a nice bloke, truth be told.
It started off like a covers band. All local UK musos that weren't bad, nothing interstellar but not bad by any means. OK the guitarist, I'm told, plays in a Hendrix tribute band. Though I think he looks more like Lionel Ritchie. I kept expecting some blind woman to enter stage left with a potters wheel.
There was some woman that would occasionally sing lines to jog Leons memory.

After a while it went like some sort of Spiritualist Church thing. Trying to raise the ghost of Jimi. I walked out at this point. A bit upset. Hendrix was a huge part of my life for around 14 years.
So I have a cigarette and a pint, calm down and go back to the show.
A poor rendition of Isabella. Then like some pentecostal minister Leon starts on with "the spirit of brother Jimi has descended upon you now". Back out the door I go.
More cigarettes, more beer.
Go back to the stage room. The pentecostal thing is still going on in-between poorly performed songs. I think "stay calm, Leon has had his problems, ignore it. Just listen". Then he starts with Brother Jimi is speaking through him.
Out I go again.
OK this is Hendrix's little brother. He loved Leon very much. Back in, they're playing Wind Cries Mary incorrectly. And then it's all over.
I'm going back to my friends car for my lift home. Leon comes up to me says, "hey do you want that picture".
"Nah you're ok mate, I haven't got time".

Perhaps Leon should be playing a Janey/Gibson. Certainly similar quality of tributes.

It was the included Hendrix official amp in the listing that got me. It tells you all you need to know about how good the guitar is


She isn't even related to Jimi by blood, so I wouldn't really say Jimi is her half brother, more like step brother through Jimi's father marrying Jani's mother. Yea, she is a leach in every sense of the word.

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Post subject: Re: Remember this
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:14 am
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I thought Al Hendrix was her dad?

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nikininja wrote:
I thought Al Hendrix was her dad?
Her step dad. Janie was already hatched prior to the marriage.

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