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Post subject: amp cuts off
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:02 am
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gdec junior amp cuts off no sound but light stays on .will come back on work fine then cuts back off ? any help/ info will be great ..thanks for your time and help.


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Post subject: Re: amp cuts off
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:35 am
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So sorry you're having an issue...

Outside of rebooting the device (I don't know if that's possible), I think you need to find an Authorized Service Center and have them take a look...I hope you get it working again.

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Post subject: Re: amp cuts off
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:25 am
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Thanks so much .will do .great lil amp when it works.plan to get it to shop soon.


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Post subject: Re: amp cuts off
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:30 am
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Does the plug go straight to the wall power outlet with nothing in between (surge protector. etc)?

Did you try reseating the power cable in the back of the amp? Does it wiggle a little even when it's plugged all the way in?

Have you ruled out power issues in the room/building?

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Post subject: Re: amp cuts off
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:47 am
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plugs right into wall .cord seems to be tight .i have unplugged cord from amp a few times plugs back up tight .wonder if cord is bad ?


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Post subject: Re: amp cuts off
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:12 pm
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You have either a bad thermo-couple which trips once the amp heats up or another component gone bad which is essentially doing the same thing.

Used GDec Jr.s go for <$70USD, so no point in even attempting to have it repaired - shop time will be at least $60/hr.

There is a very real potential to kill yourself w/ the high voltage involved internally, so unless you're a qualified tech, don't even think about trying to fix it yourself.

That's the one thing no one mentions about solid-state amps, they're basically disposable.

Since nearly everything is fixable, it would be possible to repair it, there just isn't any cost/benefit to doing so.

If all you want is a small practice amp, there are several out there for <$250.00 which will serve your needs; Bugera, Vox, Marshal, Fender to name a few.

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Post subject: Re: amp cuts off
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:16 pm
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Thank you for your help / info


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Post subject: Re: amp cuts off
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:23 pm
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Lightnin MN wrote:
Used GDec Jr.s go for <$70USD, so no point in even attempting to have it repaired - shop time will be at least $60/hr.

That's the one thing no one mentions about solid-state amps, they're basically disposable.


+1000

Landfill fodder and nothing more.

Replace it with a quality piece of gear and rawk on.

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Post subject: Re: amp cuts off
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:13 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
Lightnin MN wrote:
That's the one thing no one mentions about solid-state amps, they're basically disposable.


+1000

Landfill fodder and nothing more.


Disposable by design.

Going by Lightnin's estimate of >$70, for the price of one "quality piece of gear" you can buy several G-Decs and have a spare on hand for next time, along with a spare to replace the spare and another spare to replace that one. Hell you could pick up one more to keep in the bathroom (why not?).

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Post subject: Re: amp cuts off
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:10 pm
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I have to say that there are a few decent solid state amps for playing clean loud, and that are serviceable too. Orange, Randall and Yamaha have or had some good analog SS amps. They also cost more than a benji.

What I haven't found are any digital solid state amps that are other than consumerist products intended to last until they break, and then be replaced. It broke, so replace it. Sorry.


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Post subject: Re: amp cuts off
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:20 am
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arth1 wrote:
What I haven't found are any digital solid state amps that are other than consumerist products intended to last until they break, and then be replaced.

well the first modeling amp brand I ever heard of was Line 6. I never had one but a friend of mine got one when they first came out. This thing was HEAVY. It would have been difficult to lift it high enough to drop it with a significant thump.

The truth is, those old first generation Line 6 amps seemed to be very ruggedly built, no?. I just felt they lacked 'soul' so I never entertained the idea of getting one at the time.

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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:35 am
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:16 am
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Oh don't mind us. :lol: This thread will surely turn into a digital vs. analog debate. It's a frequent and controversial topic here. I'm a computer technician by trade and really like the flexibility I get with my digital amp. Others have that nostalgia for the classic tube amps which carry a big price tag, but they're amazing with just a guitar, a wire, and a good stomp box. What a great dilemma to have! :mrgreen:

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Post subject: Re: amp cuts off
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:09 am
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I'm not a "vintage purist," and I appreciate the flexibility and "Cost Saving" digital gear can allow a player...but...

Just as valuable as "Cost Saving" is to many players (although I question whether $70-$150 is an "affordable" throwaway item), my time, trust, aggravation and irritation are much more valuable. If I have a piece gear that's down, especially if it's the only piece of gear that does that particular job, that's an "Aggravation Cost" on the ledger.

I have a 1992 Fender '63-reissue Vibroverb that I bought new in September/October of that year. It listed for $900, I paid $500 (besides that being a long time ago, I had bought A LOT of gear from that shop, and they gave me a good deal...plus, I had cash).

It has "failed" me once...when the (admittedly weak) stock Oxford-style speakers blew after 9 years of near-constant use in gigs, jam sessions, recording sessions and various performances all over D/FW. I replaced those speakers (stowed the originals in the closet) and kept on rockin'.

I've replaced the entire set of tubes once, when the stock OEM tubes started going bad...they never failed me, but I could tell it was time for a change--that was when the amp was ~15 years old (I had slowed down on my live performances--and heavy use--when the amp was about 12 years old).

When the amp was 17 years old, I replaced the preamp tube for the "Normal" channel with a lower-gain 12AY7, to better facilitate harmonica use (less feedback, warmer tone)...sounded interestingly different for guitar, too, but I digress.

Just a week ago, I noticed the Bright channel sounded a bit weak and fritzy; I plugged into the Normal Channel and everything was fine, so I might have to replace the 12AX7 preamp tube in the Bright channel.

Now, I currently own a 23+ year old (counting when I bought it new) amp that has truly "failed" me once, (and even during that failure, it still worked, even though the blown speakers sounded bad/good/wild/weird).

I might (maybe) have to replace the preamp tube in the bright channel soon, so there's another "mini problem" I've had with the amp.

Down time in total, after 23 years?
2 days.
Gigs/jams/practices/recording sessions I had to forego, reschedule, or borrow another amp due to that down time?
Zero. 0. None.

I figure that my original investment (even if I had paid list cost) has been returned 20-fold in lack of "Aggravation Costs".

That's why some of us here say that the fun and affordable, yet unreliable and disposable digital toys are not worth the low price they command.

Now, I understand that not everyone can afford a well-made tube amp, but Fender needs to do itself a favor and quit putting their name on unproven, unreliable and unrepairable equipment, if for no other reason than to protect their Name Equity and Reputation.

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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:59 am
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Screamin Armadillo wrote:
Now, I understand that not everyone can afford a well-made tube amp, but Fender needs to do itself a favor and quit putting their name on unproven, unreliable and unrepairable equipment, if for no other reason than to protect their Name Equity and Reputation.


+1000

Regrettably, I think that ship has already sailed.

Where Fender amps were once regarded as the paradigm of reliability and dependability, the "old guard" within the company who saw to that has now been put out to pasture and the new corporate focus now is producing disposable junk.

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