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Post subject: Re: USA Geddy Lee Jazz
Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 9:47 pm
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You know, a Ric is on the "bucket list," even though I technically had a '71 4001 back in the day. I was too much of a newb to appreciate it at the time, i.e. I couldn't play it. :P

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Post subject: Re: USA Geddy Lee Jazz
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 8:30 am
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PaulLF wrote:
You know, a Ric is on the "bucket list," even though I technically had a '71 4001 back in the day. I was too much of a newb to appreciate it at the time, i.e. I couldn't play it. :P


Like most player know, over time, preferences and likes change. The 4001 you had, must have been nice too.
A Ric is a kind of a different bass, not everyone likes them. I would have liked to have had a 4003FL, when they were still in production. I'm not complaining though. This 4003W has an attitude that sounds similar enough to the USA GL Jazz, set through the Markbass. Pretty decent.

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Post subject: Re: USA Geddy Lee Jazz
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 3:43 pm
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The problem that I had with mine is that it was in pretty rough shape (the nut fell off when I changed the strings,) and I didn't have the experience to deal with such things to think I could fix them. Another thing was the horseshoe magnet pickup was kind of weird to get use to as a beginner, but that's something I can deal with now. I know people take that off, but I've always understood it was something that contributes to it's overall sound.

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Post subject: Re: USA Geddy Lee Jazz
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 6:23 pm
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That's one of the top things I like about a 4003, other than the sound, playability, and it's looks, I don't change anything out on a Ric 4003. I like it the way it is. STRINGS DON'T COUNT. Image

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Post subject: Re: USA Geddy Lee Jazz
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 1:41 am
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I wouldn't change anything other than probably strings, either. By the way, I wonder what strings they even use on their basses?

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Post subject: Re: USA Geddy Lee Jazz
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 8:22 am
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I wouldn't change anything other than probably strings, either. By the way, I wonder what strings they even use on their basses?


They say Rickenbacker on the string envelopes, weather they make their own, or are farmed out, I don't know. They are .45, .55, .75, .105. Round Wound Nickel. I think they standardized their gauges to be a bit more standard with the rest of most basses. A year or two ago, I think the A string was a .77, now it's showing a .75. The cut on the nut on my 4003W is really good. It's taking the ETB92 Nylons perfectly. .50, .65, .85, .105.

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Post subject: Re: USA Geddy Lee Jazz
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 7:29 pm
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Yeah, I looked at I found them on their site so you can buy them: http://boutique.rickenbacker.com/STRING ... p_685.html Like you said, who knows if they make them in their shop or outsource them with some place like D'Addario or whatever?

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Post subject: Re: USA Geddy Lee Jazz
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 12:27 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
Yeah, I looked at I found them on their site so you can buy them: http://boutique.rickenbacker.com/STRING ... p_685.html Like you said, who knows if they make them in their shop or outsource them with some place like D'Addario or whatever?


I will say the Rickenbacker original strings, do look well made. There is only one set of strings they string on a four string Ric Bass. .45, .55, .75, .105. The Nickel on them even looks to be a top quality Nickel. I'm thinking they make them, and a lot of the other Ric parts. They would have more control over the parts, and wouldn't have to be concerned about parts shortages from other manufacturers. John Hall likes keeping tight reigns on his Rickenbacker product. I kinda' like that.

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Post subject: Re: USA Geddy Lee Jazz
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 11:22 pm
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That's true. They never outsourced their operation and that's probably why they also have had the issue of backlogs years ago. You know, years ago I remember watching this channel called PBS You, that's long gone now because of PBS budget cuts, and they had this one program on there, which I think had to do with businesses or manufacturing, or something like that, and they featured Rickenbacker and their whole process. I remember something about him talking about all of that and they were having someone playing on one of the guitars, either a 330 or 360. Man those are nice sounding guitars, besides the basses.

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Post subject: Re: USA Geddy Lee Jazz
Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 12:15 pm
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A good friend of mine that I backed on bass in 1969-1970 played a Ric 6 stringer. His Ric was going through a Fender Twin Reverb. What a sound. I don't remember the model number, but it was one of the smaller body Rics at the time.

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Post subject: Re: USA Geddy Lee Jazz
Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 6:04 pm
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The Ric 12 strings are definitely a classic, too. You know, I've been GASing with that Jack Casady bass, but it doesn't mean I still don't want a Ric. It's just the Jack Casady is more realistically attainable at this point and time. I could buy two or three of them for what you pay for a Ric, unless I could get a good deal on some used one somehow. What do they go for these days, around $2000?

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Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 6:30 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
The Ric 12 strings are definitely a classic, too. You know, I've been GASing with that Jack Casady bass, but it doesn't mean I still don't want a Ric. It's just the Jack Casady is more realistically attainable at this point and time. I could buy two or three of them for what you pay for a Ric, unless I could get a good deal on some used one somehow. What do they go for these days, around $2000?


Pretty much, about $1,950., plus tax, tag, title, and first born male child. If I took into consideration what the USA Geddy Lee costs at $1600., or the newer Fender Elite cost about the same, or higher than the Ric 4003W. The Ric 4003W just seemed to be what I was looking for, as long as it was put together properly.

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Post subject: Re: USA Geddy Lee Jazz
Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 11:53 pm
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That's about a grand and $20 more than what they wanted for them back when I was checking them out in Clearwater in a store that's now Sam Ash. Of course, that was probably 1994 and 23 years ago. I suppose if you factor in inflation and all of that, it's probably roughly the same.

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Post subject: Re: USA Geddy Lee Jazz
Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 1:12 pm
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I did myself a favor over the years, and didn't look at Ric Basses. Once I played one about six years ago, I payed more attention to them.

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Post subject: Re: USA Geddy Lee Jazz
Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 6:36 pm
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On the 4003W, I think the only thing I thought about changing, other than changing the strings to the Nylons, is to remove the Bridge Pup Cover. I really don't need to, It doesn't impair my playing of it. I'll leave it on, it just kinda' fits the looks of it. Image

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