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Post subject: Re: Is the guitar based band dying?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:38 am
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I dig this dead (sic) guitar based band

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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:49 pm
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As long as there are garages, adolescents with a dream (and maybe a hint of talent) there will always be guitar based bands.
Oh - and a few hot chicks next door never hurts. :lol:
Why? Because it's portable, spontaneous and provides instant gratification when done right.

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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:13 pm
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The instrument is the medium through which creativity is expressed.
I, in some ways empathise with the journalist. Some things are too overdone. It's nothing but people making a quid by feeding you the same beans you had yesterday, today.

Will guitar music die? I think that is a stupid, short sighted question. Guitar or rather string music has been a big part of popular music for centuries. It's an easily accessible instrument. That doesn't take a boffin brain to get started on.

Journalists, much like musicians without anything new to contribute. Make statements to get a knee jerk reaction. They're best ignored, mostly.
There's fantastic melodies, arrangements in most styles of music. To discount those because of a trend is idiotic. Open ears is what it's all about

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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:46 pm
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There's fantastic melodies, arrangements in most styles of music. To discount those because of a trend is idiotic. Open ears is what it's all about

Music is generally seen to comprise melody, harmony and rhythm. When two of those are going away in popular music, it does not really bode well for what we think of as music.
Of course the guitar based band isn't dying. But guitar is a harmony based instrument, and those are all waning in popularity, not just guitars.

Not too long ago, every band would have a sax and trumpet player, and every home would have short reed instruments like accordions and chromatic harmonica. Now those instruments aren't top dog, but there are still plenty of good musicians playing them.
Those of you that live long enough will get to see what replaces the guitar as the ubiquitous instrument. But rest assured, dethroned it will be, eventually, just like every other instrument since man first put a piece of grass between his lips and blew.
And harmony and melody will make comebacks, as they have before.


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Post subject: Re: Is the guitar based band dying?
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:21 am
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Short answer: no. Guitar-based bands still pop up all the time where I live. There are however fewer venues for classic guitar-based bands. As already mentioned, a lot of pop music emphasizes non-melodic vocals and dance over melody and harmony. But there's hope -- I read an article recently (forget where) saying that some rap artists are now going back to using natural instruments (drums and guitars).

Exposure is the big factor. A lot of kids only know what they hear on the radio and from friends. Best way to introduce them to guitar (or whatever you like) music is ... play it when they're around but don't preach. I play Jazz, classic blues, etc. in my office all day long and any number of staff have come to like it and ask me about the artists. Works a lot better than asking them "How can you listen to THAT crap ..." (referring to what they're playing) and then walking away.


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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:28 pm
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Yep Arth1, that is something I definitely see with guitar driven music. Melody is waning. And with most music styles, rhythm is the domineering factor.

Pop(ular) music has always focused mainly on melodies you can whistle, matching a pleasant mid tempo beat. Too fast and melody becomes indistinct. Too slow and it's a dirge. Or a ballad as some people like to call them. I see a difference.
It makes them easily accessible. And I think that is what we really miss the loss of.
That said, it's hard to come up with original stuff eighty odd years after popular, selling in volume music, first hit the general public.

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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:52 pm
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Hello, everyone; my name is Andy, and I am new to the Forum. (See my Introduction Post for those who are curious.)

Drew365, I read your first post at the top of this thread--as well as each response--and here are my initial thoughts:

Although I am unfamiliar with Chris Cornell and I don't know which newspaper the article was written for, I think it is unfair for a reviewer to belittle any artist publicly because he finds it an "outdated style of music." I also take mild offense to the term " Just Another White-Guy-With-Guitar".

The fact is, we are now living in a world where there is no mainstream pop-music style anymore. I guess I'm an old guy now, having just turned 50, and I don't think rock n' roll is mainstream anymore. EDM, rap, country, and modern metal (which I also don't consider to be rock) are probably the most well-received genres by the general public. Out of those styles I suppose metal uses the guitar the most.

But the real question that I personally have grappled with as I continue to play classic rock style songs is this: Does it really matter? And to me it does not. The guitar is my main instrument. That is what I write songs on, what I primarily record with, and certainly what I go on stage with. My job is to be the best musician I can be. And if reviewers don't get it, that's their problem.

If you're any good at what you do, and you get out there and do it, you will find your audience. And don't worry about those who don't get it.

Long live the guitar!


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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:30 pm
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LightandShade wrote:
Hello, everyone; my name is Andy, and I am new to the Forum. (See my Introduction Post for those who are curious.)

Drew365, I read your first post at the top of this thread--as well as each response--and here are my initial thoughts:

Although I am unfamiliar with Chris Cornell and I don't know which newspaper the article was written for, I think it is unfair for a reviewer to belittle any artist publicly because he finds it an "outdated style of music." I also take mild offense to the term " Just Another White-Guy-With-Guitar".

The fact is, we are now living in a world where there is no mainstream pop-music style anymore. I guess I'm an old guy now, having just turned 50, and I don't think rock n' roll is mainstream anymore. EDM, rap, country, and modern metal (which I also don't consider to be rock) are probably the most well-received genres by the general public. Out of those styles I suppose metal uses the guitar the most.

But the real question that I personally have grappled with as I continue to play classic rock style songs is this: Does it really matter? And to me it does not. The guitar is my main instrument. That is what I write songs on, what I primarily record with, and certainly what I go on stage with. My job is to be the best musician I can be. And if reviewers don't get it, that's their problem.

If you're any good at what you do, and you get out there and do it, you will find your audience. And don't worry about those who don't get it.

Long live the guitar!


From one Andy to another, welcome to the forum. I like your take on this. For sure the current 18 to 25 year old does not want to be like their grandparents generation. That's no surprise, and why care. The music we make and enjoy is still valid to us, even if we take it to our graves. I'm good with that. But, I probably won't be buying any Fender or Gibson stock.
I'm going to make up a T-shirt to wear onstage with just "AWGWG" on the front, and wear it proudly. I wonder if anyone will get it? :D

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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:10 pm
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"AWGWG" T-shirt? You're right, we should be proud to wear that, shouldn't we? Let the world know that we are still here and we still have something to say.


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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:09 pm
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No, and if you think it is then you probably can't get your head out of last century


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Post subject: Re: Is the guitar based band dying?
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:38 am
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This and other innovations may help to show that guitar based bands are here to stay in one form or another. :D

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Post subject: Re: Is the guitar based band dying?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:05 pm
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In the past two years I've taken to going to local music festivals, with regional Indie acts. (Yay for "Sappyfest" and "Stereophonic"!)
Maybe 5 percent had something other than a guitar(s) as the main instrument.
Something I did note was the relative rarity of Les Pauls.
Teles, Strats, Mustangs and especially Jazzmasters were most common, and a surprising number of cheap-ass vintage guitars with character. A few Rics and Gretschs too.

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Post subject: Re: Is the guitar based band dying?
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:28 am
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John L Rose wrote:
In the past two years I've taken to going to local music festivals...
Something I did note was the relative rarity of Les Pauls.
Teles, Strats, Mustangs and especially Jazzmasters were most common, and a surprising number of cheap-ass vintage guitars with character. A few Rics and Gretschs too.

I've noticed the same trend, too...Although, down here in Texas, I'm seeing fewer Strats (a mainstay for Texas Blues and Rock since Stevie and Jimmie hit it big) and Teles (which had been big in country and blues for dang near ever). It (almost) seems there's more Telecaster players than Stratocaster players...
I'm seeing a lot of Jazzmasters and Mustangs, and a few Gretschs...as well as funky-looking vintage stuff like National/Valco, Harmony, Danelectro, etc.
There's also an large amount of Frankencasters (not patterned after any particular guitar, like a Jazzmaster body with Lipstick pickups and a Tele neck) and cheap overseas stuff being used too.

One thing I notice, however: many/most of them have a Stratocaster or Telecaster as a backup...I think they probably started out playing that Strat or Tele, but wanted to "stand out" from the crowd, so found a "differently styled" instrument and started using it, hoping it would become their personal Trademark (like Jack White's use of an Airline or Beck's use of a Danelectro)

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