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Post subject: Flat Versus Staggered
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:32 am
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In my opinion, the staggered poles were developed to compensate for the pronounced radius of the Fender Stratocaster of 7.25". So why does Fender still manufacture their pickups to compensate for a radius not found on their common models? Shouldn't they offer any of their pickups in either flat or staggered poles? Perhaps even having the ability to adjust them individually would be a great idea. To preserve the look, have the poles threaded from the bottom and have either an alan wrench or phillips head screw on the bottom of the pickup, through the bobbin? I think G&L MFD pickups are designed that way, which was one of the final designs Leo Fender came up with. Any thoughts?

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Post subject: Re: Flat Versus Staggered
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:19 pm
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IMO stagged tuners was made long time after Leo made is 7.25 radius and was only use in modern 9.5 radius since 1995 or close.


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Post subject: Re: Flat Versus Staggered
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:29 pm
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Staggered tuners exist only to improve the break angle of teh string over the nut. They have nothing to do with the freboard radius.

There are three reasons Fender doesn't do as you suggest:

1. Cost

2. Cost

3. Cost.

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Post subject: Re: Flat Versus Staggered
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:32 pm
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Staggered poles, not tuners... Sorry fellas... I meant pole pieces on the pickups.... DOH!

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Post subject: Re: Flat Versus Staggered
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:48 pm
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Ouf !!!!!!

On Fender guitar , stagged pole have nothing to do with radius. They are not the same.

Yes on adjustable pole piece like Gibson pickups you can adjust pole piece to same radius as the neck if you wish . G & L too ?


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Post subject: Re: Flat Versus Staggered
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:17 pm
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DetroitBlues wrote:
Staggered poles, not tuners... Sorry fellas... I meant pole pieces on the pickups.... DOH!


100 lashes with an 046 string. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Flat Versus Staggered
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:14 pm
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stratele52 wrote:
Ouf !!!!!!

On Fender guitar , stagged pole have nothing to do with radius. They are not the same.

Yes on adjustable pole piece like Gibson pickups you can adjust pole piece to same radius as the neck if you wish . G & L too ?


Ah, not so. They were created for the balance of string tone... But developed for the 7.25", not modern radiuses.

http://www.fender.com/news/index.php?di ... rticle=482

Fenders very own words...

We mentioned a moment ago that design factors come into play concerning pickup stagger. One of the biggest is that since string height corresponds to a guitar's fingerboard radius, the strings themselves vary in their height above the pickups. Their arc across the width of the fingerboard results in the middle strings (D and G in particular) sitting higher above the pickups than the bass and treble strings, so it makes sense to raise their polepieces a bit in order to ensure consistent volume.

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Post subject: Re: Flat Versus Staggered
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DetroitBlues wrote:
Staggered poles, not tuners... Sorry fellas... I meant pole pieces on the pickups.... DOH!


100 lashes with an 046 string. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Thank you Siam may I have another!

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Post subject: Re: Flat Versus Staggered
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:51 am
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That's not I see on many 7.25 radius


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Post subject: Re: Flat Versus Staggered
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:35 pm
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I'll take mine staggered......just the way Leo intended.

The Stratocaster has already suffered enough blasphemous tampering.

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Post subject: Re: Flat Versus Staggered
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:32 am
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If your saddles' radius is correct you can measure each string to pole piece and find the distance from each string is similar, with the exception of the B string which is lower. This works on modern 9.5 necks.

Fender is known for it's loud plain G String tone. I find that by lowering the G pole piece by half on the plastic bobbin American pickups it's a good compromise for the unwound G string. This is also called a "Modern Stagger" by some pickup builders.

I prefer the Modern Stagger myself.


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