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Post subject: Some doubts about Fender Vintage noiseless with TBX TC
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:40 am
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I installed the pickups on my guitar along with the TBX and the boost circuit.
1 - due to a mistake on my part because I put too much solder on the Master pot and when I tried clean the mess created but there's a pewter plate glued on top of the pot. this will damage the pot? If there's any possibility, how can I clean up this mess now?
2 - once again... another mistake... i did change the order of pots... the volume(50 k) pot and the boost of the cicuit(250 k), gave a howl. I saw one of the topics that would be due to this reversal of pots. right?
3 - i know ​​that you guys know that Fender has 500 diagrams for the same product. it left me confused and angry, because when I decided, myself, change my guitar eletric parts I came across this little joke. but the question that most intrigued me was the following in the scheme of Clapton's guitar says that the black wires of the pickup arm and the middle, along with the yellow of the bridge pickup, are connected on the switch selector and the wires are white linked in the master pot. In the diagram of Vintage noiseless is the opposite ... which one should I follow to install the pickups? there difference in sound between the two schemes?

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P.S: sorry for my awful english but i'm trying folks....


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Post subject: Re: Some doubts about Fender Vintage noiseless with TBX TC
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:37 am
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elciosouza wrote:
...I put too much solder on the Master pot and when I tried clean the mess created but there's a pewter plate glued on top of the pot. this will damage the pot? If there's any possibility, how can I clean up this mess now?


Of itself, it should not be a problem unless you've melted the insides of the pot due to excessive and prolonged heat. You can minimize the mess by heating it up again and while it is still liquified, immediately wipe the excessive solder off with a damp rag. Be extremely careful not to burn yourself or anything else in the process.

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...i did change the order of pots... the volume(50 k) pot and the boost of the cicuit(250 k), gave a howl. I saw one of the topics that would be due to this reversal of pots. right?


You are correct. Reversing these pots will cause exactly what you've stated.

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the scheme of Clapton's guitar says that the black wires of the pickup arm and the middle, along with the yellow of the bridge pickup, are connected on the switch selector and the wires are white linked in the master pot. In the diagram of Vintage noiseless is the opposite ... which one should I follow to install the pickups? there difference in sound between the two schemes?


Unfortunately, I cannot fully comprehend this last statement of your's. If I'm interpreting it correctly (or close enough), if you are using Vintage Noiseless pickups, you would wire them according to their polarity.

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Post subject: Re: Some doubts about Fender Vintage noiseless with TBX TC
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:09 am
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I would suggest wiring the guitar like this:

http://support.fender.com/service_diagr ... 1_SISD.pdf

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Post subject: Re: Some doubts about Fender Vintage noiseless with TBX TC
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:59 am
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i'm using this onehttp://support.fender.com/service_diagrams/stratocaster/011-7602A_SISD.pdf
but with the vintage noiseless came two different diagrams and they don't match with the Clapton's diagrams in the pickups wire color. what do i do? if i do the vintage diagram will change the sound or what? it'll change something? or Clapton's diagram is also correct
? Many thanks folks!!!!


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Post subject: Re: Some doubts about Fender Vintage noiseless with TBX TC
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:02 pm
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Be that the pickup wires are blue, red, yellow or white, there's always a black one, that's the ground. The colored one is the live going to the switch.


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Post subject: Re: Some doubts about Fender Vintage noiseless with TBX TC
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good! I've done as you explained, that is what is in the diagram that came with the vintage noiseless ... but the last question, if I reverse as it is in the diagram of Clapton, what can happen? changes the sound or it'll be muted? thank you all!


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Post subject: Re: Some doubts about Fender Vintage noiseless with TBX TC
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:54 pm
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If reversed it may sound crappy.


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Post subject: Re: Some doubts about Fender Vintage noiseless with TBX TC
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:10 pm
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elciosouza wrote:
i'm using this onehttp://support.fender.com/service_diagrams/stratocaster/011-7602A_SISD.pdf
but with the vintage noiseless came two different diagrams and they don't match with the Clapton's diagrams in the pickups wire color. what do i do? if i do the vintage diagram will change the sound or what? it'll change something? or Clapton's diagram is also correct
? Many thanks folks!!!!


The diagram that you are using is the 2001 version. The diagram I posted is the current version from 2004. Use the one that I posted.

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Post subject: please help!
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:58 am
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HELLO EVERYBODY!

TWO WEEKS ago I purchased a complete set New In Box noiseless pickups with 1 500K POT AND 2-1MEGK POTS in the original box.
but the wiring diagram has in the picture and instructions three 1.meg pots, please somebody examplain me this its an erro from fender ?? what i have to do??
note: no tbx or circuits , i just want the vintage system in one mim strat!


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Post subject: Re: Some doubts about Fender Vintage noiseless with TBX TC
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:02 pm
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you will use the 500K as Master and the 2 - 1MEG as Tones.


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Post subject: Re: Some doubts about Fender Vintage noiseless with TBX TC
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:25 pm
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there's something bothering me like hell ... has a "hum" very high... something that was not to be happening ... seems ground, but the ground was made following the specifications of the scheme of Clapton's guitar, exactly. putting my hand on the bridge the "hum" disappears, holding the pots without the knobs he also disappears, if I put the volume at zero it's gone and what really intrigued me, if I increase the boost, but with the master volume at zero and it appears high, due to bosst 25dB, I think.
researched and most say that this kind of setup does not require shielding, right or wrong? as you guys think I can fix it? Thank you first of all!!


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Post subject: Re: Some doubts about Fender Vintage noiseless with TBX TC
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:46 am
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elciosouza wrote:
there's something bothering me like hell ... has a "hum" very high... something that was not to be happening ... seems ground, but the ground was made following the specifications of the scheme of Clapton's guitar, exactly. putting my hand on the bridge the "hum" disappears, holding the pots without the knobs he also disappears, if I put the volume at zero it's gone and what really intrigued me, if I increase the boost, but with the master volume at zero and it appears high, due to bosst 25dB, I think.
researched and most say that this kind of setup does not require shielding, right or wrong? as you guys think I can fix it? Thank you first of all!!


Forget the shielding. Apparently something is wired incorrectly.

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Post subject: Re: Some doubts about Fender Vintage noiseless with TBX TC
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:01 pm
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what should i do? do it all again? do you know any efficient way to ground the instrument?


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Post subject: Re: Some doubts about Fender Vintage noiseless with TBX TC
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:06 pm
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what should i do? do it all again? do you know any efficient way to ground the instrument?


We cannot see your wiring so we cannot assess what the problem is.

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Post subject: Re: Some doubts about Fender Vintage noiseless with TBX TC
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:33 am
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i was here wondering... how can i know if my pot that was a completely mess is broken? it could work? what could be the signals?


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