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Post subject: vintage noisless pickups- cap or resistor. Help!
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:04 am
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Hi, I bought a strat off ebay that needed fixing up. The previous owner recently installed fender Vintage noisless pickups ser# 053336 printed on pickup. There is a 500K vol. pot used and 2 CTS pots-mid & neck. The soldering was done poorly so I am re-wiring. The thing that puzzled me was he only had the resistor installed where normally the capacitor would go mounted on the mid pot and tieing to the other CTS pot. In the bag that he sent was the unused .22k cap & a 681 1kv cap. I cannot find a diagram that shows the setup where both the resistor & cap are being used together. (I thing the 681 would have been used if I had a 250 vol pot? I pulled up the Jeff Beck diagram setup that shows the vintage noisless but it only shows the .22k cap being used (not the resistor). Can someone either help me find the link or PDF showing fenders updated install on the noisless with the 500 volume pot and were to mount the resistor & cap. Unless someone knows which combination works best with these pickups. Thanks,Mike!


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Post subject: Re: vintage noisless pickups- cap or resistor. Help!
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:56 am
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cuzzmike wrote:
Hi, I bought a strat off ebay that needed fixing up. The previous owner recently installed fender Vintage noisless pickups ser# 053336 printed on pickup. There is a 500K vol. pot used and 2 CTS pots-mid & neck. The soldering was done poorly so I am re-wiring. The thing that puzzled me was he only had the resistor installed where normally the capacitor would go mounted on the mid pot and tieing to the other CTS pot. In the bag that he sent was the unused .22k cap & a 681 1kv cap. I cannot find a diagram that shows the setup where both the resistor & cap are being used together. (I thing the 681 would have been used if I had a 250 vol pot? I pulled up the Jeff Beck diagram setup that shows the vintage noisless but it only shows the .22k cap being used (not the resistor). Can someone either help me find the link or PDF showing fenders updated install on the noisless with the 500 volume pot and were to mount the resistor & cap. Unless someone knows which combination works best with these pickups. Thanks,Mike!


Hi Mike,

The resistor is for a treble bleed circuit which is inappropriate for those pickups so forget about it. Also with those pickups, having all three pots rated at 250K audio would be your best bet. Lastly, note that your tone cap should be rated at .022uf, not at .22k.

The black and green wires from those pickups are all ground wires. Beyond this, simply choose any more traditional type Strat wiring diagram and commence wiring.

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Post subject: Re: vintage noisless pickups- cap or resistor. Help!
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:54 pm
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Thanks so much for your help. The only thing is the wires on the vintage noiseless pickup set is white & black except bridge yellow & black. From what I read the 500k pot and the 2 cts taper came with this set up. Should I still go with your game plan? Thanks.


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Post subject: Re: vintage noisless pickups- cap or resistor. Help!
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:14 pm
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cuzzmike wrote:
Thanks so much for your help. The only thing is the wires on the vintage noiseless pickup set is white & black except bridge yellow & black. From what I read the 500k pot and the 2 cts taper came with this set up. Should I still go with your game plan? Thanks.


You're welcome.

Obviously, all black wires are ground where the white and yellow ones are your positives.

Fender fluctuated with pot values with these pickups since their inception. Believe me, 250K all around is definitely the way to go.

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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:51 am
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OK THATS WHAT I WILL DO.THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. MIKE


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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:57 am
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OK THATS WHAT I WILL DO.THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. MIKE


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Post subject: Re: vintage noisless pickups- cap or resistor. Help!
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What if I had a 59 HB for the bridge ?
SHould That have a 500K pot?
Or go with a 250K?
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cuzzmike wrote:
Thanks so much for your help. The only thing is the wires on the vintage noiseless pickup set is white & black except bridge yellow & black. From what I read the 500k pot and the 2 cts taper came with this set up. Should I still go with your game plan? Thanks.


You're welcome.

Obviously, all black wires are ground where the white and yellow ones are your positives.

Fender fluctuated with pot values with these pickups since their inception. Believe me, 250K all around is definitely the way to go.


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Post subject: Re: vintage noisless pickups- cap or resistor. Help!
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:11 pm
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[quote="stratcat33511"]What if I had a 59 HB for the bridge ?
SHould That have a 500K pot?
Or go with a 250K?
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Actually, there's two ways to look at this:

1. As it is a full sized HB, a 500K pot is the standard. In which case, you would use a 500K pot and then for the neck and middle pickups, you'd do best to solder a 470K resistor each from their respective terminals on the pickup selector switch to ground. This would make the single coils electronically 'see' a (very close to) 250K pot. If you don't use the resistors, the VNs will sound most sterile as I think you've already experienced.

2. On the other hand, MANY players feel a 59 bridge pickup is too trebly (myself included). In this case, using a 250K pot will hump up the 59's midrange at the expense of it's highs and to a lesser degree, it's bass. Of course, the aforementioned two resistors would not be necessary.

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