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Post subject: custom shop pickups vs vintage noiseless
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:25 pm
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Should I swap my custom shop 60s for vintage noiseless . I love the tone of my 60s pickups but if I can have that tone without the hum that would b class . The problem is I've used noiselss pickups befor . Dimarzio 61s and lace sensors and i just feel thers something missing. A kind of mid range that can't be replaced boosting and a presence bell like ring. I've never used v.ns. are they any diff ?


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Post subject: Re: custom shop pickups vs vintage noiseless
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:47 pm
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IMO, Vintage Noiseless would be my last choice. They won't sound like your Custom 60s pups, and they are particularly hard to dial-in. I would use Lace Sensors before any of those.

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Post subject: Re: custom shop pickups vs vintage noiseless
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:17 pm
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Okay, by reading your other thread I now understand that you plan to use them with a Clapton mid-boost. That is one thing that the Vintage Noiseless do very well. I tend to believe that it was for that particular application that the Vintage Noiseless were made. But... Are you going to get the tone of your Custom 60s? Again, not likely. The Custom 60s are arguably Fender's best Strat pickups. But with the mid-boost in play, they do have good potential.

But I will say again, even with the midboost, that Gold Lace Sensors would be a better choice. I'm using a set of Lace "Copperhead" Sensors with my mid-boost. Lots of great tones with this set-up. IMO, the Gold Lace Sensor is a better sounding pickup with the mid-boost. Without a mid-boost, I like the Hot Gold Lace Sensor or the Emerald Lace Sensor, and the Silver Lace Sensor for a bridge pickup.

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Post subject: Re: custom shop pickups vs vintage noiseless
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:34 am
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So u think it will work ok with my 60s pickups ?

See the thing is my 60s are a one of set . Ther out of my friends c.s.60s strat . I also had the bridge pick up rewired for a little bit more power. I felt it was a little week when you went to the bridge . 6.2k it is now so still not very high out put . The only thing is I wish they had a little more warmth at times but I believe the Clapton kit will sort that ?


Life is good when you love your tone! I like it and agree that's something I'm tryin to sort. I've bin playing for about 14 year and people love my tone but still not quite rite for me lol


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Post subject: Re: custom shop pickups vs vintage noiseless
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:13 pm
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Jimiroberts wrote:
So u think it will work ok with my 60s pickups ?

See the thing is my 60s are a one of set . Ther out of my friends c.s.60s strat . I also had the bridge pick up rewired for a little bit more power. I felt it was a little week when you went to the bridge . 6.2k it is now so still not very high out put . The only thing is I wish they had a little more warmth at times but I believe the Clapton kit will sort that ?


Life is good when you love your tone! I like it and agree that's something I'm tryin to sort. I've bin playing for about 14 year and people love my tone but still not quite rite for me lol


The long and the short of it is, if you don't have humbucking pickups, you will boost the hum of your pickups in direct proportion to how much you use the Clapton kit to boost your signal.

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Post subject: Re: custom shop pickups vs vintage noiseless
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:26 pm
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I dig . Should be ok u can only try things can't u !


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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:34 pm
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Jimiroberts wrote:
I dig . Should be ok u can only try things can't u !


Vive La Difference!

Oh, and welcome!!

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Post subject: Re: custom shop pickups vs vintage noiseless
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:25 am
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Wat I was trying to ask is would the vn's orlace sensor golds sound as good as my 60s or will they have the same slightly humbucking sound like the dimarzios . I've tryd lace sensors but they wer not the golds . They was the hot ones I think. Like I said I love the sound of the 60s I have but if I could have that sound with no hum that would b cool


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Post subject: Re: custom shop pickups vs vintage noiseless
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:32 am
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Jimiroberts wrote:
Wat I was trying to ask is would the vn's orlace sensor golds sound as good as my 60s or will they have the same slightly humbucking sound like the dimarzios . I've tryd lace sensors but they wer not the golds . They was the hot ones I think. Like I said I love the sound of the 60s I have but if I could have that sound with no hum that would b cool


To my ear, the VNs are far from being in the same league as the DiMarzios so if you don't like the DiMarzios, you are definitely not going to like the VNs. As to the Lace Sensors, again to my ear, they are missing something in the high end and most assuredly do not have that 60s vibe. Further, contrary to popular belief, they are not HBs. The only other contender left for you (IMO) in terms of stacked HBs is Kinman pickups which are (again, IMO) over-priced and even here, you may find them akin to the DiMarzios as many players are nowadays making comparisons to which manufacturer of the two has the ultimate 'edge'.

Like I've said several times, once the band starts playing, no one is going to hear the 60 cycle hum. So, if you are happy with the tonality of the pickups you have in there now (which is of utmost importance), you may want to just deal with things as they are. Besides, your wallet will surely thank you.

As always, YMMV.

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Post subject: Re: custom shop pickups vs vintage noiseless
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:07 am
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Thanks f the advice dude. I will try it and if the noise is to much look in to it then . I agree with wat u say to , wen u read reviews the vns and true singles sound the same but wen u try them they sound diff . Maybe not alot but thers something missing and if that's wat ur looking for u gotta have it


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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:41 am
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Jimiroberts wrote:
Thanks f the advice dude. I will try it and if the noise is to much look in to it then . I agree with wat u say to , wen u read reviews the vns and true singles sound the same but wen u try them they sound diff . Maybe not alot but thers something missing and if that's wat ur looking for u gotta have it


Anytime!

"Practicing what I preach" so to speak, I have all single coils in my Strat too. The hum doesn't bother me in the least. Further and like you've said, by eliminating the hum, you eliminate other key ingredients too which is most unacceptable!

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Post subject: Re: custom shop pickups vs vintage noiseless
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:53 am
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I really want the mid boost kit fitted and i will b taking it to a tech soon . I hear that the mid boost is alway on and alot of people seem the think the vns wer made to b used with that kit. If the kit alows me to get the tone I have then boost the mids that will b perfect . But if it changes the tone even with the boost turned right down . Then I will look at getting the vns and putting my 60s in another strat .


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Post subject: Re: custom shop pickups vs vintage noiseless
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:01 am
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Jimiroberts wrote:
I really want the mid boost kit fitted and i will b taking it to a tech soon . I hear that the mid boost is alway on and alot of people seem the think the vns wer made to b used with that kit. If the kit alows me to get the tone I have then boost the mids that will b perfect . But if it changes the tone even with the boost turned right down . Then I will look at getting the vns and putting my 60s in another strat .


Frankly, I don't think you are going to be satisfied with any of the above. You may want to consider a premium EQ pedal. This way, unlike an on-board type pre-amp, you can tailor in and out the desired frequencies as well as the increase in volume.

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Post subject: Re: custom shop pickups vs vintage noiseless
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:53 am
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I don't like to many pedals and wen I tryd the Clapton strat I loved the effect the boost had . But like we said all u can do is try it :-)


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