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Post subject: Clapton mid boost with natural single coils
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:07 pm
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Hi i have a few questions . I've brought a c.m.b.k. For my USA strat that has custom shop 60s pickups. I've tryd to fit it myself . It works but don't sound right to me , its very noisy and the pickups sound much duller. Will it change the sound of the pickups even with the boost turned down ? I'm pretty sure I've done it wrong ?

Also I know that clapton uses vintage noiseless pickups and mine are not noiseless, but will it effect it that bad ? Will it not work ?

Should I swap to v.n. pickups ? My problem is I've tryd alot of pickups ( not vintage noiseless) I've tryd dimarzio noiseless singles lie area 61s and lace sensors, and I really are not to keen ther is somthink missing . True single coils have a thud and sparkle that the others don't . Will I have the same prob with the vintage noiseless ?

I do use quite alot of overdrive at times but like to keep my rig (fender deville 410 , dunlop fat sandwich ) as simple as possible for true tone.


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Post subject: Re: Clapton mid boost with natural single coils
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:37 pm
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I love my vintage noisless pu in my cs clapton strat. I am having a hard time playin my cs 60s strat because of it.


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Post subject: Re: Clapton mid boost with natural single coils
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:27 am
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What you no doubt noticed with VN's is that they are mid scooped, aneimic pickups. Theres no real power to them. I really believe they were designed for that midboost circuit.

Your not going to get that midboost to sound like a regular strat. It adds way too much power to the guitars signal. It boosts the mids through the roof. Also it is never off. I have it installed on SCN pickups and their very very full sounding. A bit too much actually. I don't mind, I had it on regular humbuckers in my strat once and still have it on my Jackson with a emg 81/85 setup.


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Post subject: Re: Clapton mid boost with natural single coils
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:11 am
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I think ur right about the mids mate, cuz that's wat I thought was wrong with the dimarzios . But I still think ther is something missing that u only get with true singles.

So u think it working proply it's just cuz the boost is always on . The thing is if u touch the pickup polls it crackles like static . That can't be right , but it is earthed prolly

Ps sorry for my writing, I do it fast and on a I phone :-)


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Post subject: Re: Clapton mid boost with natural single coils
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:32 am
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Jimiroberts wrote:
Hi i have a few questions . I've brought a c.m.b.k. For my USA strat that has custom shop 60s pickups. I've tryd to fit it myself . It works but don't sound right to me , its very noisy and the pickups sound much duller. Will it change the sound of the pickups even with the boost turned down ? I'm pretty sure I've done it wrong ?

Also I know that clapton uses vintage noiseless pickups and mine are not noiseless, but will it effect it that bad ? Will it not work ?

Should I swap to v.n. pickups ? My problem is I've tryd alot of pickups ( not vintage noiseless) I've tryd dimarzio noiseless singles lie area 61s and lace sensors, and I really are not to keen ther is somthink missing . True single coils have a thud and sparkle that the others don't . Will I have the same prob with the vintage noiseless ?

I do use quite alot of overdrive at times but like to keep my rig (fender deville 410 , dunlop fat sandwich ) as simple as possible for true tone.


The undesired pickup noise gets boosted as much as the desired pickup signal. If your pickups were noisy before you installed the boost, they will be even noisier afterwards. Because of this fact, the Clapton boost should only be used with noiseless pickups IMHO.

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Post subject: Re: Clapton mid boost with natural single coils
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:15 pm
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I understand things like the hum will be enhanced but this is really noisy and like I say the pickups now sound muddy and wen u touch the pols it crackles :-(
I'm going t have a proper tech have a look !


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Post subject: Re: Clapton mid boost with natural single coils
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:24 pm
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I bougth the clapton kit too, and use 3 single coils american standard... positions 2 and 4 works beautifully clean and even with hi gain distortion.... but positions 1,3 and 5 are extremely noissy, even during playing you can hear the big hum..... I`ve double and triple check all the solder points and connections.... and I think the mid boost kit don´t like fender standard single coils....

anyone advice to reduce the noisse???? :cry:


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Post subject: Re: Clapton mid boost with natural single coils
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:18 pm
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1. Install noiseless pickups

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2. Remove the booster

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Post subject: Re: Clapton mid boost with natural single coils
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:17 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
Because of this fact, the Clapton boost should only be used with noiseless pickups IMHO.


Not necessarily.

The MDX mid boost can also be used with regular single coil pickups.

An internal dummy coil beneath the pickguard is required to eliminate the 60-cycle buzz.

Noiseless pickups do not need a dummy coil.


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Post subject: Re: Clapton mid boost with natural single coils
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:27 pm
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I bougth the clapton kit too, and use 3 single coils american standard... positions 2 and 4 works beautifully clean and even with hi gain distortion.... but positions 1,3 and 5 are extremely noissy, even during playing you can hear the big hum..... I`ve double and triple check all the solder points and connections.... and I think the mid boost kit don´t like fender standard single coils....

anyone advice to reduce the noise???? :cry:


Install a dummy coil beneath the pickguard!

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Post subject: Re: Clapton mid boost with natural single coils
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:05 pm
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Unless the guitar has a bathtub route, you would probably have to enlarge one of the existing pickup routes.

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Post subject: Re: Clapton mid boost with natural single coils
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:09 am
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Thanks for the reply all of you..... the dummy coil option looks interesting.... but and aditional questions....

1. this coil need any special wiring or is enough put the coil inside the cavity to cancel the 60 cycles hum??????

2: this coil will eliminate the hum in 1, 3 and 5th position or only y position 3 and 5 (middle and bridge)

Thanks for the help :D


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Post subject: Re: Clapton mid boost with natural single coils
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:40 am
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ChristosFp wrote:
Thanks for the reply all of you..... the dummy coil option looks interesting.... but and aditional questions....

1. this coil need any special wiring or is enough put the coil inside the cavity to cancel the 60 cycles hum??????

2: this coil will eliminate the hum in 1, 3 and 5th position or only y position 3 and 5 (middle and bridge)

Thanks for the help :D


Dummy coil is wired like this:

http://support.fender.com/service_diagr ... A_SISD.pdf

I have no experience with the dummy coil as far as how it works.

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Post subject: Re: Clapton mid boost with natural single coils
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:33 pm
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There's another option: the BPSSC backplate from Suhr.

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Post subject: Re: Clapton mid boost with natural single coils
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:16 pm
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That thing is $300. :shock:

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