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Post subject: clapton mid boost kit limitations
Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:29 am
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I am looking at the whole kit with the new pots I know they have
non conventional values. I was wondering how will these work with
regular single coils I.E. I have a 57/62 neck a texas special
middle and a cs 69 bridge will they sound tinny or overly
harsh with the kit or do you think it will work any tips
are appreciated especially martian or anybody who has used
the kit with conventional pickups thank you

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Post subject: Re: clapton mid boost kit limitations
Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:02 pm
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clem160 wrote:
I am looking at the whole kit with the new pots I know they have
non conventional values. I was wondering how will these work with
regular single coils I.E. I have a 57/62 neck a texas special
middle and a cs 69 bridge will they sound tinny or overly
harsh with the kit or do you think it will work any tips
are appreciated especially martian or anybody who has used
the kit with conventional pickups thank you

( I know I don't use punctuation very much I am not
a good typist)


Clem,

The unit itself will work but with single coils, as you turn up the boost, so shall you be turning up the hum right along with it to the point of where the guitar will sound like you have it plugged into some kind of cheap, cheesy pedal.

Once installed, even with the gain on '0', the boost is still on at all times.

Depending on how well your current pickups are potted, there is a possibility of any one or combination thereof feeding back with the boost cranked.

To the sounds:

The Texas Special will be puking midrange and essentially farting bass. The closest thing I can compare it to is a Gibson EB-0 bass pickup (you know, that huge one), the 57/62 will lose all its high end and the lower frequencies will be quite muddled. It would sound like a single coil bass pickup with the tone pot on zero; the 69 will sound somewhat like the Texas Special did before the boost, only a bit louder louder and less defined.

Obviously, I don't recommend it with your particular trio.

I do like your current choice of single coil pickups a lot though.

FWIW: I perceive you want to 'crank up' the personality of these pickups rather than change their tone, just kind of wanting them to be on steroids, so to speak. Consequently, you'd do infinitely better with a premium overdrive pedal rather than a mid boost.

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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:43 pm
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Hi Clem,

I've wired up my mid boost kit to the following pick up sets:

Fender Hot Noiseless - Very harsh sounding - Not good at all. (Great pups, but awful with the mid boost kit)

Unbranded Single coils (each about 6.2k) - noisy as hell on full and muddy and undefined on anything above 4 (though they weren't the best sounding pups to start with :wink: )

Lace Sensor Colours (Blue, Silver, Red) - Great but needed to tweak the EQ to get rid of a bit of unwanted bass

Lace Sensor Hot Gold - Same as the colours but better IMO

I agree with Martian a Drive pedal and ideally an EQ and a Compressor would be the best way to go. Another option for boosted tones would be and S-1 switch which would give you some pickup combinations in series (bit like a wide spaced humbucker).

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The Texas Special will be puking midrange and essentially farting bass.

Martian, your on top form as usual. Quality post! :D

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as always sound advice

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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:37 pm
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i played one at g.c. and it was nice but for the price i bought the e.h. nano lpb pedal it gives a quiet boost to all the feq. and is responsive to volume changes so you dont loose the qualites of the passive single coils. for 40 bucks you cant beat it with the strat.


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Andybighair wrote:
Martian, your on top form as usual. Quality post! :D

Enjoy!

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Thank you. I call them exactly the way I see (or hear) them in plain language which can easily be related to and identified with. This is why I'd NEVER make it as a diplomat! :wink:

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Martian wrote:
This is why I'd NEVER make it as a diplomat! :wink:

I don't know about that! I'm sure you'd make a better diplomat than some of your fellow Martians

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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:25 am
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You can use the Clapton circuit with regular pickups, even with full-sized humbuckers.

However, you'll need to install an internal "dummy" coil beneath the pickguard in order to keep the pickups quiet.


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Andybighair wrote:
Martian wrote:
This is why I'd NEVER make it as a diplomat! :wink:

I don't know about that! I'm sure you'd make a better diplomat than some of your fellow Martians

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Outstanding!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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chromeface wrote:
You can use the Clapton circuit with regular pickups, even with full-sized humbuckers.

However, you'll need to install an internal "dummy" coil beneath the pickguard in order to keep the pickups quiet.


This will work only when one pickup is selected at a time and premising that the middle pickup isn't RW/RP.

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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:52 pm
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What about the Clapton mid boost with a Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates Plus in the bridge, and Texas Specials in the mid/neck positions?


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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:42 am
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What about the Clapton mid boost with a Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates Plus in the bridge, and Texas Specials in the mid/neck positions?


Premising the middle TS is not RW/RP, the dummy coil will work for these two TS pickups but will introduce line noise with the PG. Further, putting the Clapton Boost into a guitar's circuit without HBs will ramp up the line noise proportionate to the boost. You'd do best to have all three pickups HB on their own with the Clapton Boost.

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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:56 pm
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ok.... since the middle texas special IS rw/rp, thats how theyre made, changing out the texas specials like I was thininkng about doing will be best. trying to decide on Lace Sensor Emeralds (supposed to have the texas special sound, which I LOVE, but noiseless), Seymour Duncan STK S-4's (similar tone), or Fender N3 noiseless pickups (never heard them but are supposed to be killer). Any of those should sound great with the PG+ humbucker I'd think. I hope so anyway cause I'm in love with this PG+ humbucker.


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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:30 pm
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jlsatkins wrote:
...Any of those should sound great with the PG+ humbucker I'd think. I hope so anyway cause I'm in love with this PG+ humbucker.


There's only one sure way to find out!

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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:28 am
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I had a couple of Jackson CVR's on a Clapton boost for awhile. I really don't recommend it.

Great metal sounds (I mean jaw droppingly good). Sod all use for anything else.

Currently I have SCN's on that guitar and a Vintage Toneless in the neck. It works well. The SCN's turn into humbucker sounding beasts with the boost on 10. The vintage toneless becomes nice sounding. The real boon is the neck/middle position. The SCN's are constantly out of phase with the VN's, no matter what you do. So getting the boost right up and lowering the tone gives a sound very akin to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3ure6_pa2M&feature=related

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