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Post subject: Strat humbucker problem
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:10 pm
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Sorry to be new and have my first post be a cry for help but...I have a '06 American Strat with HSS and the S1 switch. Intermittently the humbucker signal gets VERY weak and has alot of noise. I can swich positions and everything else is ok. After a couple of minutes it suddenly comes back. I've been all over the thing and can't find a loose wire or a cold solder joint. It won't stay broken long enough to diagnose the problem. I beginning to think it may be the pickup itself. Anyone else have this problem or any suggestions? It's a funny thing, I have two MIM strats, one Korean strat and a MIM tele and have never had a problem with any of those. Thanks.


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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:37 am
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You have bad connexion (solder) on negative wire on your humbucker pickups.

That's why you have noise : no ground.

If you know how to use soldering iron ( NO soldering gun near pickups), heat the solder on the negative wire . Switch side and pickups side ( be carefull).

If you don't know how to solder bring to a tech


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Post subject: Re: Strat humbucker problem
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:25 am
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rhinal wrote:
Sorry to be new and have my first post be a cry for help but...I have a '06 American Strat with HSS and the S1 switch. Intermittently the humbucker signal gets VERY weak and has alot of noise. I can swich positions and everything else is ok. After a couple of minutes it suddenly comes back. I've been all over the thing and can't find a loose wire or a cold solder joint. It won't stay broken long enough to diagnose the problem. I beginning to think it may be the pickup itself. Anyone else have this problem or any suggestions? It's a funny thing, I have two MIM strats, one Korean strat and a MIM tele and have never had a problem with any of those. Thanks.


Welcome!

Even though some swear up and down it doesn't happen to American made Strats due to their overall quality (including electronics) being infinitely superior to that of the other countries' models you've mentioned, the fact of the matter is, chances are your S-1 switch is dying.

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Post subject: Re: Strat humbucker problem
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:37 am
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Martian wrote:
Welcome!

Even though some swear up and down it doesn't happen to American made Strats due to their overall quality (including electronics) being infinitely superior to that of the other countries' models you've mentioned, the fact of the matter is, chances are your S-1 switch is dying.

Hello!

I'd like to confirm the above post as I've read several reports now of similar symptoms that were all down to the S-1 switch. Which is a shame cos I really like mine and I want it to be a reliable feature.

If your S-1 is a few years old try repeatedly pressing the swich this may clear any dirt that has acumilated in the switch. Though I would have a replacement S-1 or a spare Volume pot ready as this may totally kill the switch if its already on it way out.

Hope this helps

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Post subject: Re: Strat humbucker problem
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:10 pm
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Andybighair wrote:
Martian wrote:
Welcome!

Even though some swear up and down it doesn't happen to American made Strats due to their overall quality (including electronics) being infinitely superior to that of the other countries' models you've mentioned, the fact of the matter is, chances are your S-1 switch is dying.

Hello!

I'd like to confirm the above post as I've read several reports now of similar symptoms that were all down to the S-1 switch. Which is a shame cos I really like mine and I want it to be a reliable feature.

If your S-1 is a few years old try repeatedly pressing the switch this may clear any dirt that has accumulated in the switch. Though I would have a replacement S-1 or a spare Volume pot ready as this may totally kill the switch if its already on it way out.

Hope this helps

Andy


Oh no, but this cannot be! American Strats blow the doors off MIM ones, especially in areas such as electronics quality!!

Seriously and reinforcing Andy's suggestion, I'd order the replacement switch now if I were you as that frail switch has one foot in the grave and the other on an ice slick. Besides, who knows how long it will take for you to get it as it is an extremely in-demand replacement part for many American Strats.

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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:24 pm
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I never work on Strat wit S1 switch, Andybighair and Martian could be wright.

On guitars without S1 swith, I found bad solder for this problem.


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Post subject: Re: Strat humbucker problem
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:32 pm
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Martian wrote:
Oh no, but this cannot be! American Strats blow the doors off MIM ones, especially in areas such as electronics quality!!

Screw the reports! lets hope its a tiny bit of bad solder and not question the superior build quality of American Strats! Also i've been "big'in up" S-1 switch and really want it to work!

Maybe Fender will reward me for my loyallty..... Custom shop Jeff Beck Signature Strat... would be just fine! :D

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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:35 pm
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Andybighair wrote:
Martian wrote:
Oh no, but this cannot be! American Strats blow the doors off MIM ones, especially in areas such as electronics quality!!

Screw the reports! lets hope its a tiny bit of bad solder and not question the superior build quality of American Strats! Also i've been "big'in up" S-1 switch and really want it to work!

Maybe Fender will reward me for my loyallty..... Custom shop Jeff Beck Signature Strat... would be just fine! :D

Andy


That Aerosmith tune is floating through my head now. What's the name? Oh yea, "Dream On"! LOL

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Post subject: Re: Strat humbucker problem
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:11 pm
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Martian wrote:
Andybighair wrote:
Martian wrote:
Oh no, but this cannot be! American Strats blow the doors off MIM ones, especially in areas such as electronics quality!!

Screw the reports! lets hope its a tiny bit of bad solder and not question the superior build quality of American Strats! Also i've been "big'in up" S-1 switch and really want it to work!

Maybe Fender will reward me for my loyallty..... Custom shop Jeff Beck Signature Strat... would be just fine! :D

Andy


That Aerosmith tune is floating through my head now. What's the name? Oh yea, "Dream On"! LOL

:D

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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:27 pm
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Thanks for the suggestions. I'll resolder the pickup leads and order/install a new s1 switch. I want to keep it working because it makes for a really versatile guitar. As much trouble as it seems people are having with it, it seems Fender should do something for owners whose instruments are out of the electronics warranty.


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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:02 pm
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rhinal wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll resolder the pickup leads and order/install a new s1 switch. I want to keep it working because it makes for a really versatile guitar. As much trouble as it seems people are having with it, it seems Fender should do something for owners whose instruments are out of the electronics warranty.


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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:16 pm
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HA!!! I found it! It messed up again and stayed that way long enough for me to get the pickguard off and do some checking with my ohmeter. I found one bank of the humbucker at 3.82 kohms BUT the other at 212 kohms. I can't see any problems with the solder on it so I guess it's time to look for another pickup :( I guess that would be a TexMex on a '06 MIA Strat right? I have a 4 wire Duncan Pearly Gates sitting around I could use but if I did how do the wire colors match up on the Duncan vs. the Fender to maintain the correct phase?


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rhinal wrote:
HA!!! I found it! It messed up again and stayed that way long enough for me to get the pickguard off and do some checking with my ohmeter. I found one bank of the humbucker at 3.82 kohms BUT the other at 212 kohms. I can't see any problems with the solder on it so I guess it's time to look for another pickup :( I guess that would be a TexMex on a '06 MIA Strat right? I have a 4 wire Duncan Pearly Gates sitting around I could use but if I did how do the wire colors match up on the Duncan vs. the Fender to maintain the correct phase?

Hello!

I'm so gald its not your S-1!

The Lone Star Strat has a pearly gates in the Bridge. Follow the following diagram and you should be fine!

http://www.fender.com/support/diagrams/ ... 02BPg2.pdf

Hope this helps and good luck

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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:46 am
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rhinal, what do you mean when you say ? :
"can't see any problems with the solder on it so "

1- You just look the solder and see... a solder ?
or
2- You make a new solder with soldering iron and your pickup is not better ?

Look at what I said feb 24.

You better make news solder, switch side and pickup side.
I'm pretty sur your problem is not the pickup itself.


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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:35 pm
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Aha.. I think I see your problem.

A humbucker on a Strat - that's the problem..

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