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Post subject: Re: Wiring Help Request - Fender Mid boost with the S-1 Swit
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:48 pm
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Thanks a ton! Yeah I'm gonna end up routing it then. I've got a buddy who's a luthier.

One last thing... I can't seem to find any white S-1 knobs anywhere? Got a source?

Carter


Welcome and best of luck with your project. Here's a link for what you need:

http://www.darrenriley.com/shop/cart.ph ... ail&p=1080

Evidently, they don't make them in pure white, only parchment.

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Post subject: Re: Wiring Help Request - Fender Mid boost with the S-1 Swit
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:37 pm
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Thanks man I was looking there. Kind of a bummer but theres not really too much difference anyway.

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Post subject: Re: Wiring Help Request - Fender Mid boost with the S-1 Swit
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:35 pm
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Just one more question (I say that a lot don't I?)

Seeing as the Vintage Noiseless are stacked single coils, am I still going to use all of the regular pots that would be used for the mid boost kit+s1? Or should I double the 50k volume? Or the tones?

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Post subject: Re: Wiring Help Request - Fender Mid boost with the S-1 Swit
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:28 am
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CarterTimm wrote:
Just one more question (I say that a lot don't I?)

Ask as many questions as you like. :D

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Seeing as the Vintage Noiseless are stacked single coils, am I still going to use all of the regular pots that would be used for the mid boost kit+s1? Or should I double the 50k volume? Or the tones?

Carter

I recommend using the pots that came with the Mid boost kit. Which should be...

1x 250k pot for the Mid-boost
1x TBX for the Master Tone control
1x 50k for the Master Volume - You'll need to dismantle the pot and remove the carbon trace and swap that with the S-1 pot. Below is a few pic's and a break down of what to do.

Gently pry open the 4 small tabs that hold the top plate on the pot. the Pic below shows two of those already done...

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Then remove the carbon trace....

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...and swap them over. Fold the tabs back down and you have your self a 50k S-1 switch Master volume pot suitable for use with the Mid-boost kit.

Job done!

Hope this helps

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Post subject: Re: Wiring Help Request - Fender Mid boost with the S-1 Swit
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:26 pm
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Andy, you never cease to amaze! Thanks so much again!

Ok so I finally got all of the parts I ordered and the s1 knob doesn't want to seem to fit on the s1 pot shaft. Did this happen to you?

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Post subject: Re: Wiring Help Request - Fender Mid boost with the S-1 Swit
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:12 pm
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CarterTimm wrote:
Andy, you never cease to amaze! Thanks so much again!

No probs mate!

There are other users here that set a very high standard regarding posted information. I just try not to let the quality slip too much... :D

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Ok so I finally got all of the parts I ordered and the s1 knob doesn't want to seem to fit on the s1 pot shaft. Did this happen to you?

Nope!

But here's a few thing to try...

Sometime knobs can be a bit tight and may need a "reasonable" amount of force to be seated properly.

You can also try to very slightly (and I mean Very Slightly!) close the split shaft end by giving it a little squeeze. That should make fitting the knob much easier.

If that's not the case....

If you look down the shaft of the S-1 switch pot you will see another little shaft within. The push button insert of the S-1 knob should fit the inner shaft. Try getting that to fit first then remove it and try fitting the complete knob making sure the locating pin on the push button is in the hole on the knob.

Let me know if the above is clear... if not can post some clear pic's over the next few days for you, but I reckon its probably just a tight fit.

Enjoy!

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Post subject: Re: Wiring Help Request - Fender Mid boost with the S-1 Swit
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:21 pm
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I just gave the shaft a little squeeze and it went right on without any problems!
Yeah it was strange. I tried putting my tone knobs on to the shaft just to see if it was a bad knob, but even those, being tapered, wouldn't go.

Thanks again!

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Post subject: Re: Wiring Help Request - Fender Mid boost with the S-1 Swit
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:26 pm
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CarterTimm wrote:
I just gave the shaft a little squeeze and it went right on without any problems!
Yeah it was strange. I tried putting my tone knobs on to the shaft just to see if it was a bad knob, but even those, being tapered, wouldn't go.

Thanks again!

Carter

Good Stuff! :D

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Post subject: Re: Wiring Help Request - Fender Mid boost with the S-1 Swit
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:49 pm
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Ok so I was making sure that I got everything in my shipping package of the s1 and super switch stuff and came along a capacitor that was packaged separately from the s1 pot. It's labeled:

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Is this the actual "special capacitor" for use with the s1 switch? And if it is should I use it or the .022 Mylar that you mentioned earlier?

Thanks yet again!
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Post subject: Re: Wiring Help Request - Fender Mid boost with the S-1 Swit
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:17 am
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CarterTimm wrote:
Ok so I was making sure that I got everything in my shipping package of the s1 and super switch stuff and came along a capacitor that was packaged separately from the s1 pot. It's labeled:

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503z

Is this the actual "special capacitor" for use with the s1 switch?

Yep!

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And if it is should I use it or the .022 Mylar that you mentioned earlier?

Well, that's entirely up to you!

By all means try it out and if you don't like it swap it for something else. There's no right or wrong on this as it all down to personal preference. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Wiring Help Request - Fender Mid boost with the S-1 Swit
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:49 am
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Great!

Thanks a ton!

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Post subject: Re: Wiring Help Request - Fender Mid boost with the S-1 Swit
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:47 am
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Hi guy's, I new here (and I'm French, sorry for my poor English)

I've got a 08' American Standard Stratocaster with an AC15 C1 vox amp.
I want to install the switch S-1 and the mid boost kit on my strat to have more medium because my vox don't give me enough (even if it's a faboulous amp).

The thing is that each pickup of my strat have 2 wires whereas the noiseless in your shematic have 3. How can I do ?

I will also put copper in my strat to cut of the "buzzz".

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Post subject: Re: Wiring Help Request - Fender Mid boost with the S-1 Swit
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:28 pm
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Welcome Pietchou!

I had the same problems as you! For the pickup wiring, just ignore the middle green wire in the wiring diagram found on page two. You won't need to worry about grounding the pickups as they will be grounded through the s1 switch!

Also, I may recommend getting noiseless pickups, which, in case you don't know, are basically humbuckers that sound like single coils. They are know as "stacked single coils". Be wary when purchasing these, however, as most of these "stacked singles" are actually regular humbuckers designed for single coil guitars. Fender does a good job at making these, particulary their "Vintage Noiseless Pickups". These can be found on the Clapton Strat, which also has the mid-boost kit.

The reason I am suggesting these noiseless pickups is because with the gain that you are going to be using with the mid-boost kit. By using standard single coil pickups, you will get a lot more "noise" caused by lights, tvs, appliances, etc. than you will with the noiseless pickups. Also, you won't need to put all of that copper inside of your guitar!

Let us know if there's anything else we can do!

Nous voulons aider!

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Post subject: Re: Wiring Help Request - Fender Mid boost with the S-1 Swit
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:48 pm
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Thank you ! That's mean that brige and neck pickups haven't "direct" ground but middle pickup still have one ?

For buying noiseless, I fought about it, but it's about 100$ and I don't want to put more money in that... :s
Did you tried standard pickups with mid boost in your guitar ? Was it horrible ? ^^
Did someone tried to make this with copper ? Do you think it won't be enough and that I HAD to put noiseless in my guitar ?

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Post subject: Re: Wiring Help Request - Fender Mid boost with the S-1 Swit
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:58 pm
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Thank you ! That's mean that brige and neck pickups haven't "direct" ground but middle pickup still have one ?


Correct. But you will not need to worry about it because of the s1.

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Did you tried standard pickups with mid boost in your guitar ? Was it horrible ?


I have not, but through experience with no gain boost I can tell you that without shielding, you will not have a good experience with the gain cranked all the way up.

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Did someone tried to make this with copper ? Do you think it won't be enough and that I HAD to put noiseless in my guitar ?


By all means, shield your guitar with copper! I was just trying to save you the hassle, which really isn't that bad. Just remember to ground the copper to your central ground (in this case the back of the tone pot).

Personally, I prefer the sound of vintage noiseless over the American Standard pickups, assuming that they're the ones that came with your guitar. But try everything out and see what works best for you!

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