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Post subject: HELP WITH VINTAGE NOISELESS PICKUP INSTALL
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:54 pm
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I'm installing vintage noiseless pickups in my 50's Road Worn and need to know if there are any other Mod's I should do while I'm at it. Pots, Caps Ect.... Would someone be able to tell me what I need in addition to the set of Fender Vintage Noiseless Pickup set? Thanks So Much


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Post subject: Re: HELP WITH VINTAGE NOISELESS PICKUP INSTALL
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:13 am
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acouguitar wrote:
I'm installing vintage noiseless pickups in my 50's Road Worn and need to know if there are any other Mod's I should do while I'm at it. Pots, Caps Ect.... Would someone be able to tell me what I need in addition to the set of Fender Vintage Noiseless Pickup set? Thanks So Much


Welcome!

You are essentially good to go. The only other thing which might be necessary is a Switchcraft output jack. Anything else would be your personal preferences after this.

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:18 am
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Did your Vintage noiseless pickups come with 3 pots and a cap? What are the values of them?
I recently picked up a used set of mint condition Vintage noiseless pups, but they only came with covers, screws and nothing else, no pots.
I saw that the Deluxe Players Strat uses VN pups with 500k audio taper pots for tone and 250k A pot for volume, and a .022uf cap, I think.
What is best to get the most vintage tone from those pickups? By that I mean clear, bell-like, chime without the harsh tinny treble tone.


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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:09 am
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paisley strat wrote:
... I saw that the Deluxe Players Strat uses VN pups with 500k audio taper pots for tone and 250k A pot for volume, and a .022uf cap, I think.
What is best to get the most vintage tone from those pickups? By that I mean clear, bell-like, chime without the harsh tinny treble tone.


Regardless of the name and the pots/cap values, it is (IMO, of course) very difficult to get a clear, bell-like, chime without the harsh tinny treble tone out of these pickups.

The magnets are ceramic. So, non-existent are any inherent, bell-like aspects while inherent are the harsh and tinny aspects. Couple this with the coils of these pickups being weak by design. Consequently, there aren't enough windings for any in-depth dynamics.

250K pots are recommended to prevent a pickup from sounding tinny while 500K pots are recommended to expand a pickup's frequency response. If you read between the lines, it is a lose/lose situation as you either have a brittle, compressed fizz or a clanky, sterile plunk. Even if you used one pot of each value in either combination, it will not help. As to the cap, by the time it all gets to here, it is of no consequence. FWIW, the .047 will give you a bit more bass with the tone pot backed off.

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:40 pm
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To my knowledge, the Vintage noiseless pickups have Alnico V magnets, and the Hot Noiseless have ceramic magnets.
From what I have read in the forum, I think I will install CTS 500K pots and see what it sounds like. I have heard the Vintage noiseless units are very "Strat-like" and have a true vintage sound w/o the noise. With all the Strats I have played, I never had a chance to try these particular units out. Tried lots of others, but not these.
One of the things I really like about pickup swaps is that they are completely reversible. No harm done if you want to go back to stock. And they are relatively cheap, in the grand scheme of guitardom.
Thanks for the input.


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